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Re: 4o Image Generation

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It still can't generate a full glass of wine. Even in follow up questions it failed to manipulate the image correctly.

Are you sure you are using the new 4o image generation? https://imgur.com/a/wGkBa0v

Can you do this with the prompt of a cow jumping over the moon?

I can’t ever seem to get it to make the cow appear to be above the moon. Always literally covering it or to the side etc.

Re: 4o Image Generation

#172

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That is an unexpectedly literal definition of "full glass".

Generating an image of a completely full glass of wine has been one of the popular limitations of image generators, the reason being neural networks struggling to generalise outside of their training data (there are almost no pictures on the internet of a glass "full" of wine). It seems they implemented some reasoning over images to overcome that.

I wonder if that has changed recently since this has become a litmus test.

Searching in my favorite search engine for "full glass of wine", without even scrolling, three of the images are of wine glasses filled to the brim.

Re: 4o Image Generation

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post #166

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No that seems to be indeed a native part of the multimodal Gemini model. I didn't know this existed, it's not available in the normal Gemini interface.

This is a pretty good example of the current state of Google LLMs: The (no longer, I guess) industry-leading features people actually want are hidden away in some obscure “AI studio” with horrible usability, while the headline Gemini app still often refuses to do anything useful for me. (Disclaimer: I last checked a couple of months ago, after several more of mild amusement/great frustration.)

hey at least now they bought ai.dev and redirected it to their bad ux

Re: 4o Image Generation

#175

Here's an example of iterative editing with the new model: https://chatgpt.com/share/67e30f62-12f0-800f-b1d7-b3a9c61e99... It's much better than prior models, but still generates hands with too many fingers, bodies with too many arms, etc.

You know the images themselves don’t get shared in links like that, right? (It even tells you so when you make the link.)

Re: 4o Image Generation

#176

Here's an example of iterative editing with the new model: https://chatgpt.com/share/67e30f62-12f0-800f-b1d7-b3a9c61e99... It's much better than prior models, but still generates hands with too many fingers, bodies with too many arms, etc.

For some reason, I can't see the images in that chat, whether I'm signed in or in incognito mode.

I see errors like this in the console:

ewwsdwx05evtcc3e.js:96 Error: Could not fetch file with ID file_0000000028185230aa1870740fa3887b?shared_conversation_id=67e30f62-12f0-800f-b1d7-b3a9c61e99d6 from file service at iehdyv0kxtwne4ww.js:1:671 at async w (iehdyv0kxtwne4ww.js:1:600) at async queryFn (iehdyv0kxtwne4ww.js:1:458)Caused by: ClientRequestMismatchedAuthError: No access token when trying to use AuthHeader

Re: 4o Image Generation

#177
post #104

What's important about this new type of image generation that's happening with tokens rather than with diffusion, is that this is effectively reasoning in pixel space. Example: Ask it to draw a notepad with an empty tic-tac-toe, then tell it to make the first move, then you make a move, and so on. You can also do very impressive information-conserving translations, such as changing the drawing style, but also stuff l…

It still can't generate a full glass of wine. Even in follow up questions it failed to manipulate the image correctly.

They're glass-half-full type models.

Re: 4o Image Generation

#179
post #175

Here's an example of iterative editing with the new model: https://chatgpt.com/share/67e30f62-12f0-800f-b1d7-b3a9c61e99... It's much better than prior models, but still generates hands with too many fingers, bodies with too many arms, etc.

You know the images themselves don’t get shared in links like that, right? (It even tells you so when you make the link.)

I created a shared link just now, was not presented with any such warning, and have the same problem with the image not showing up:

https://chatgpt.com/share/67e319dd-bd08-8013-8f9b-6f5140137f...

Re: 4o Image Generation

#180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure you are using the new 4o image generation? https://imgur.com/a/wGkBa0v

Can you do this with the prompt of a cow jumping over the moon? I can’t ever seem to get it to make the cow appear to be above the moon. Always literally covering it or to the side etc.

https://chatgpt.com/share/67e31a31-3d44-8011-994e-b7f8af7694... got it on the second try.
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