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Italy demands Google poison DNS under strict Piracy Shield law

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Re: Italy demands Google poison DNS under strict Piracy Shield law

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> The rental company immediately bills you for the fine ...just to find out the card is blocked :)

You can get away with that once, but the downside is you can't rent a car again (from that company, and possibly other companies if they share information about fraudsters with each other)

Which was exactly the point being talked about

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>Pirate streaming sites attract users because they provide a better, more convenient service than the paid options. Pirate streaming sites attract users because they are cheaper. People are using them because they can’t or won’t pay.

disagree. in the US my family would need to sign up to 5 different streaming platforms to be able to view everything that we watch. So that’s 5 separate accounts i need to create, 5 separate apps to install, and i need to remember which app each TV show or movie is in on my apple tv. And then sometimes only 1 or 2 seasons of a show are available for free on amazon prime, and i need to pay PER EPISODE for the remainin…

Which all sounds like a post hoc justification to me.

Re: Italy demands Google poison DNS under strict Piracy Shield law

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> The goal is aimed at preventing illegal football streams It's impressive how much internet censorship in Europe is currently being caused by this one group of extremely greedy people. It's one of the rare cases where the sheer size and international influence of companies like Google and Cloudflare can actually do some good for the world by fighting back against such laws.

> It's impressive how much internet censorship in Europe is currently being caused by this one group of extremely greedy people. How is this greedy? It's clearly illegal behavior, both from illegal re-broadcasters and from users. Most of those re-broadcast services aren't even free either, they're directly making money from the broadcasts they're replicating. The problem is that we still haven't figured out a way to…

You were a significant contributor to a DMCA circumvention measure for playing pirated Nintendo games. What changed since then?

Re: Italy demands Google poison DNS under strict Piracy Shield law

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If we wouldn’t do that for Russia, which I suggested years ago and was massively dragged for it on HN, then why would we do it for Italy? I don’t agree with poisoning DNS, but there are way worse things happening on the internet that we don’t disconnect whole nations for.

Then do it for Russia too. I also don't care if I get "dragged" for suggesting it. Capitulating to poor leadership is enabling poor leadership and the world is in a bad state because of it. Literally the only reason it doesn't happen is because there's too much money to be made for people who are not you and me. Frankly if it did happen, someone would bridge it and I'm sure that rogue bridge ain't gonna be poisoning…

The fact that Russia is still connected to the Internet is a thorn in the side of a lot of anti-piracy efforts because pirating western content is legal there, as far as I understand it.

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You're not thinking like a politician - you're thinking like the point is to maintain democracy etc. Russia Today will never tell people there's a genocide in Gaza, while TikTok does tell them that, so the latter is much more dangerous to politicians. I don't know why politicians have this weird attitude towards Gaza, but they do. Also, the propaganda on Russia Today supports strong governments, so your job as a poli…

> Russia Today will never tell people there's a genocide in Gaza, while TikTok does tell them that Well if RT was banned for other instances of disinformation, then Tiktok should absolutely be banned for this one.

That isn't disinformation though? The disinformation in that case is the one being pushed by Western politicians.

The propaganda on RT is of a completely different nature than the propaganda on TikTok.

Re: Italy demands Google poison DNS under strict Piracy Shield law

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Not at all. The comment I was responding to said the internet doesn’t work with ’arbitrary restrictions’. Let me guess. Parent poster doesn’t consider child pornography an ‘arbitrary restriction’. Who decides what is an ‘arbitrary restriction’? I propose we let a country’s government decide what is a reasonable restriction, not an American corporation. In this case, the Italian government.

No, we should not let the Government to meddle in people's business at all. Have we not seen enough about the awful consequences of Government intervention? We need less nanny states, not more.

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This is bollocks. Netflix gained popularity because they sold their service artificially cheap at a loss for many years to build market share and Kill off their competition, and that's it.

Can you point to the year Netflix made a loss for me? I don't see one in the last 12 years. https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/NFLX/netflix/gross...

That's because they don't declare taking out long term bonds as part of their p/e calculations, just the cost of servicing the loan.

Netflix were borrowing circa $4 billion dollars a year to license content until two years ago. There's nothing wrong with that, but you aren't making a genuine profit.

Re: Italy demands Google poison DNS under strict Piracy Shield law

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disagree. in the US my family would need to sign up to 5 different streaming platforms to be able to view everything that we watch. So that’s 5 separate accounts i need to create, 5 separate apps to install, and i need to remember which app each TV show or movie is in on my apple tv. And then sometimes only 1 or 2 seasons of a show are available for free on amazon prime, and i need to pay PER EPISODE for the remainin…

Which all sounds like a post hoc justification to me.

i’m not doing it to save money. really. streaming is cheap as it is. But “content rights” are a dumpster fire. I refuse to use 5 different apps to watch tv / movies. the only one i pay for is apple tv+, because the quality is fantastic and i want to reward that.

I don’t understand why the rights holders can’t partner with apple, netflix, whoever, and offer EVERYTHING in their catalog. And just let me pay for it! In a single app. Kind of like how i used to be able to walk into a blockbuster and pick any DVD.

anyway we clearly disagree. i personally don’t feel guilty worrying about how Hollywood actors will get paid. Have a nice day. :)

Re: Italy demands Google poison DNS under strict Piracy Shield law

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disagree. in the US my family would need to sign up to 5 different streaming platforms to be able to view everything that we watch. So that’s 5 separate accounts i need to create, 5 separate apps to install, and i need to remember which app each TV show or movie is in on my apple tv. And then sometimes only 1 or 2 seasons of a show are available for free on amazon prime, and i need to pay PER EPISODE for the remainin…

Which all sounds like a post hoc justification to me.

Just because you lack the capacity to understand something does not mean you are morally superior for it. It means you need to re-evaluate yourself and find why you cannot understand the fallibility of service providers.

Re: Italy demands Google poison DNS under strict Piracy Shield law

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Why is Europe like this? I feel like this is what happens when you have a region that can't innovate and only knows how to regulate. Innovators cease to be represented at the government level and the general public equates regulation with safety. The result is an increasing amount of absurd policymaking related to technology.

Is there any offering you think should be blocked? Or do you think everything should be allowed? Child porn, disinformation attempting to destabilise a democracy, …?

Are you seriously saying he‘s a child predator because he thinks the EU poisoning DNS is bad? And are you actually equating child abuse with “disinformation attempting to destabilize a democracy”? What democracy? What disinformation? What relevance does either of these things have to do with some guy not paying money to watch football?
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