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London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

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Re: London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

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Does that count only the actual airport? It doesn't count the potential business travellers contributing to the economy in different ways. Like if half of the financial sector were due to arrive at Heathrow, where would that be in the analysis? Just to downplay the importance of Heathrow through numbers is a bit absurd.

If half the financial sector is in the plane somehow, and they decide “oh, the airport has a power outage, better crash into the ocean instead,” that might make a major difference. More likely they will go land at a different airport or delay their travel, depending on there they are in the process. It’s just delays, not destruction.

You missed the parent's point, which is that a significant fraction of people flying to London because they have business to do in London, and the value of their time is not zero. If their time is wasted, that has a real cost in terms of lost productivity.

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What would you suggest as a backup? Supposedly they have generators/redundancy but the place requires so much power that that can only maintain critical functions (I guess ensuring incoming flights can still land and taxi in the mins after the power loss).

One potential solution is to add a connection to a second substation. For example, Laleham is a few miles south of Heathrow, and can be fed without sharing any infrastructure with North Hyde. I doubt it's worth the additional expenses, though. Transformers exploding like this is extremely rare, and the main reason this one has such an impact is because the firefighting effort required the other two transformers to be…

There’s also the issue that if one trips, it’ll like cause havoc with the other one.

Re: London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

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What does "(ofc)" mean?

slang for "of course"

Natch, I feared as much. I've been seeing it more and more lately. I've found it's hard for me to look at. I'd say more but I'm already wasting words.

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It might well be, but you don't have any proof of that. In Lithuania it took months of investigations to catch the culprits, analyze all evidence and make that statement. I can imagine in the UK it can take even more.

Finishing investigation is not point in time when people knew it was Putnam.

Re: London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

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If half the financial sector is in the plane somehow, and they decide “oh, the airport has a power outage, better crash into the ocean instead,” that might make a major difference. More likely they will go land at a different airport or delay their travel, depending on there they are in the process. It’s just delays, not destruction.

You missed the parent's point, which is that a significant fraction of people flying to London because they have business to do in London, and the value of their time is not zero. If their time is wasted, that has a real cost in terms of lost productivity.

I don’t think I did miss their point. The loss is not the deletion of their productivity, it is the cost of shifting that productivity back by a day or so.

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The UK is very good at sabotaging itself in order to enrich corporations/shareholders/politicians/oligarchs. No foreign influence necessary.

For Brexit - facebook and cambridge analytica got fined.... that is not UK sabotaging itself. US tools are very successful in UK because UK uses same freaking language as US does.

Re: London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

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Hey, clueless American here. I confess I have no idea how far apart things are in the UK. "Closer than in the US" is all I've got.

Ah, right! Here's an approximate comparison then, measuring from one of the terminus stations serving central London, according to railway timetable data: 0h 30m - Heathrow 1h 00m - Gatwick 1h 00m - Luton 1h 30m - Stansted 2h 30m - Manchester 3h 00m - Birmingham 3h 00m - Bristol 4h 00m - Cardiff Plus Channel Tunnel trains: 2h 00m - Brussels 4h 00m - Amsterdam Looks like I was wrong about Manchester being further than…

Birmingham airport to London is 1h 10m though there are slower services.

Re: London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

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slang for "of course"

Natch, I feared as much. I've been seeing it more and more lately. I've found it's hard for me to look at. I'd say more but I'm already wasting words.

I wonder if anyone feels the same way about your use of "natch".

Re: London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

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Old oil transformer. The insulation breaks down in old transformers. It happens sometimes. No need to involve Russian conspiracy theories at this point in time... :-) "How to Prevent Substation Fires": https://www.oilbarriers.com/blog/suppress-substation-fires/ https://youtu.be/2np745xyQ7o

Probably, but definitely check for bullet holes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalf_sniper_attack

just check newspapers title pages in UK today.... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70wylzyqw2o

Re: London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

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slang for "of course"

Natch, I feared as much. I've been seeing it more and more lately. I've found it's hard for me to look at. I'd say more but I'm already wasting words.

I needed to look up „natch” lol
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