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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by rocqua »

danmaz74 wrote: post #78
Euphorbium wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And remove visa free travel for americans.

What would that help? Asking as a EU citizen.

Quid pro quo. Hurt the current administration's popularity by inconveniencing US citizens. And in general, Visa free travel is a mutually beneficial deal. If the US stops giving the EU benefits, why shouldn't the EU reciprocate.

Personally, I get it but don't support it. I still appreciate my American brethren, just not their administration. We should hit back at the establishment, not the population. Big point there is reducing weapons import, and adding export tarrifs on F35 parts, perhaps ASML machines aswell.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by I-M-S »

apwell23 wrote: post #70
heraldgeezer wrote: post #43

>There were around 140 of us in our unit. Many women had lived and worked in the US legally for years but had overstayed their visas – often after reapplying and being denied. They had all been detained without warning. Okay so, not legal then? These articles are always like this. "omg I just overstayed a little bit!!! uwu" Btw, I am European and will never hopefully have to visit the USA again.

> These women acknowledged that they shouldn’t have overstayed and took responsibility for their actions. They took responsibility for their actions so they should't have been put there. punishing ppl even after they take responsibility is not what ppl voted for.

What does "taking responsibility for their actions" mean in this context?

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by Febra33 »

I have family in the US that I used to visit on a yearly basis, and as of this year I am afraid to visit them ever again. I'm an engineer with a very good income and a very stable life where I live. I would never immigrate illegally to the US to do some illegal job for scraps. And yet here we are, no one is safe. Anyone can end up in one of these hellholes.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by pm3003 »

elicash wrote: post #15
danso wrote: post #11

> A woman asked me for the name of someone they could contact on my behalf. In moments like this, you realize you don’t actually know anyone’s phone number anymore. By some miracle, I had recently memorized my best friend Britt’s number because I had been putting my grocery points on her account. I definitely would be screwed in this situation. Time to remember by sibling’s number

Reminds me of doing civil disobedience -- you write your attorney's phone number on your arm beforehand.

Consulates can sometimes provide emergency lawyer services. Assuming you're from a first-world country.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF »

ssijak wrote: post #151
blindriver wrote: post #21

Yes. This is the reality of how it is. It’s unfair that this woman was caught in this but CBP have ultimate power crossing the border can be scary. My friend got her visa stripped and given a 10 year ban under Obama because of jokes in her text messages about a GC marriage. She didn’t get thrown in jail but she was refused entry back into the US and had to get someone to sell all her stuff while she flew back to her…

"It’s even worse in other countries." It's not. I take you are comparing to western countries. If you have a valid visa and behave even remotely normal to the border agents you will have no issues. Only in the USA some border agents have the attitude of "I'm gonna get you" or making you feel unwelcome for no reason. Hell, even in "authoritarian" countries like UAE or Quatar I never experience anything but pleasant in…

> Hell, even in "authoritarian" countries like UAE or Quatar I never experience anything but pleasant interactions on the border.

Wikipedia seems to indicate I couldn't go to the UAE because I'm transgender https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_by_country_or_ter...

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by BizarreByte »

transcriptase wrote: post #88
BizarreByte wrote: post #28

The specifics of this case are largely irrelevant to me, the fact is I am scared to cross the border into the US at this point. For the foreseeable future I will not be travelling to the US for any reason. Canada is safe and there is nothing in the US worth risking my freedom for. I will remain here and I will continue to avoid travel to America as well as spending money on American goods/services.

The specifics are seemingly irrelevant to everyone. She had her work visa revoked at the Canadian border because her company in California was allegedly making THC beverages in violation of federal law. She was told to visit a consulate to straighten it out. Instead she flew to Mexico and tried to enter there with new and obviously fake job offer. She was treated like anyone else would, but it’s international news be…

Again I do not care. The US has done more than enough to instill fear in Canadians like me.

Would you travel to a country where its leader is constantly making threats against your country, some as serious as repeatedly calling for your annexation? The current US administration has made it very clear how it feels about me and my countrymen.

I don't consider the US safe and I do not need someone to americansplain to me. You aren't exceptional, you're a threat.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by mandmandam »

lenerdenator wrote: post #96
mandmandam wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All Harris had to do to win was promise to stop sending arms to Israel. Many, many polls showed this very clearly. 77% of Democrat voters wanted an arms embargo, and over 30% of 2020 Biden voters in key battleground states said that this issue was serious enough to affect their vote. > A Harris organizer who worked on youth turnout said that senior campaign officials gave them an order: When they sent out mass volunt…

> All Harris had to do to win was promise to stop sending arms to Israel. Not sending arms to allies seems to be a good way to piss them off.

Conducting genocide is supposed to be a good way to piss off "allies".

That's domestic and international law, by the way.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by Febra33 »

JeremyNT wrote: post #169

Flagged, of course, to death. This is an important story of US decline. This woman was here to do business. To work with Americans. If you're flagging this because you're a part of the tech right, who thinks these policies are somehow good for you, maybe hold off on that flag button and let the discussion play out here. Think about what happens if people from the rest of the world are terrified of working within this…

Sadly too many people on HN are part of the tech right, or straight up crypto bros and hate seeing these headlines.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by mandmandam »

righthand wrote: post #116
mandmandam wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All Harris had to do to win was promise to stop sending arms to Israel. Many, many polls showed this very clearly. 77% of Democrat voters wanted an arms embargo, and over 30% of 2020 Biden voters in key battleground states said that this issue was serious enough to affect their vote. > A Harris organizer who worked on youth turnout said that senior campaign officials gave them an order: When they sent out mass volunt…

> All Harris had to do to win was promise to stop sending arms to Israel. That might be true but it would have set herself up for a lie that would then be weaponized by Trump for another four years. A lot of people in this country don’t want a liar in office, that’s why they didn’t vote Trump. So while she said she wouldn’t do anything different than Biden on immigration and not stop funding Israel. Those would have…

> it would have set herself up for a lie

No. Committing genocide - murdering tens of thousands of children - nullifies any previous weapons contracts. That's obvious.

Here's the specific law against it [0]. If you want to insist that Harris would be "forced" to keep arming Israel because of contracts, I do hope you'll have a read of it first.

0 - Section 502B of the Foreign Assistance Act (FAA), codified at 22 U.S.C. § 2304(a)

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by elicash »

drumhead wrote: post #22

If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjec…

One thing I'm keeping an eye on is if Canada eventually updates its travel advisory warning for the United States https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-states (Currently still at 'normal precautions')
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