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Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Post by PokestarFan »

jeremyjh wrote: post #124
CharlesW wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because your headphones were sending a Bluetooth "Play" command on connect (my Honda Odyssey does this as well). For anyone else with this problem, you can override this silly default in macOS using Privacy & Security > Bluetooth, adding Music, then turning off Bluetooth access for Music.

Music isn't in the list of apps and I don't see any way to add it. I would love to fix this in my car radio.

There should be a "+" button you can click and select any app. The Music app is located in the /Applications folder.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Post by distrill »

skyyler wrote: post #153
distrill wrote: post #100

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it's pretty frustrating how "apple people" just don't care that it's apples fault. i routinely hear my wife mutter "i hate google so much!" when a google maps integration is being intentionally hobbled to keep her using apple maps. or when she has trouble managing rcs conversations because somebody in our social world has the gall to be on an android phone.

What kind of trouble does she have managing rcs conversations? It works fine for my partner on their iPhone.

the thing i hear most frequently is naming group chats with mixed device users

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Post by dns_snek »

vessenes wrote: post #101

I guess I’ll take the contra here on messages integration — moving a message over BLE to untrusted hardware and worse accepting them back into iMessage is a massive, massive change in the security boundary and therefore security architecture and therefore security promises that apple makes on iMessage. I do not believe average smartwatch users understand what they’d be doing if they got this. I do not believe vendors…

> One reason iMessage is less of a total cesspit than SMS is that the ecosystem is closed, and makes automation difficult

Really? I'm not in the Apple ecosystem to confirm but it looks trivial to me, and you can always fall back to keyboard/mouse input type of automation.

https://airmessage.org/

https://bluebubbles.app/

https://medium.com/@jameskabbes/sending-imessages-with-pytho...

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Post by EA-3167 »

sunshowers wrote: post #168
EA-3167 wrote: post #159

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Something I learned a while ago is that there's a particular brand of very vocal person online who has a bone to pick with Apple. Sometimes it's for a good reason, sometimes less so, but the point is that they come to discussions of any Apple topic with a conclusion ready in hand and then work backwards from that. In this case the conclusion is, "Apple is wicked, perfidious, and monopolistic." Truthfully there isn't…

I think trillion dollar companies should not exist. They are inherently destructive to humanity.

Case in point. If the topic was that, then I'd welcome the discussion, but when you simply bring that to every discussion about Apple... it gets old. After all your statement only really needs to be said once for people to understand it, which makes the repetition over the years very grating. "Single issue posters" are generally the least engaging on the internet.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Post by kelnos »

Brainspackle wrote: post #11
jisnsm wrote: post #8

If iOS only allows you to build a worse experience, then Apple customers will leave the platform for Android. The problem solves itself.

No I won't, Android is not a good user experience. I'd rather buy an Apple Watch.

And this is exactly the problem. Apple presents many of their users with bad choices: either buy an Apple Watch and suffer from its downsides, or switch to Android, and suffer in other ways. Or stick with the iPhone, buy a third-party smartwatch, and suffer from and unnecessarily-crippled user experience.

There's no technical reason it needs to be this way. Apple just prefers to be anti-competitive and increase their profits, than to give their users the as-close-to-ideal experience they want.

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Post by commakozzi »

EA-3167 wrote: post #159
ch4s3 wrote: post #125

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If your value prop to customers is seamless and secure default behavior, then of course blocking insecure peripherals aligns with your financial interests. This doesn't seem nefarious at all to me.

Something I learned a while ago is that there's a particular brand of very vocal person online who has a bone to pick with Apple. Sometimes it's for a good reason, sometimes less so, but the point is that they come to discussions of any Apple topic with a conclusion ready in hand and then work backwards from that. In this case the conclusion is, "Apple is wicked, perfidious, and monopolistic." Truthfully there isn't…

it's tiring isn't it?

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Post by avidiax »

EA-3167 wrote: post #159
ch4s3 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your value prop to customers is seamless and secure default behavior, then of course blocking insecure peripherals aligns with your financial interests. This doesn't seem nefarious at all to me.

Something I learned a while ago is that there's a particular brand of very vocal person online who has a bone to pick with Apple. Sometimes it's for a good reason, sometimes less so, but the point is that they come to discussions of any Apple topic with a conclusion ready in hand and then work backwards from that. In this case the conclusion is, "Apple is wicked, perfidious, and monopolistic." Truthfully there isn't…

"We should not discuss how much of a monopoly Apple is. It's impossible to convince some people that it's actually not a monopoly."

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Post by sunshowers »

EA-3167 wrote: post #174
sunshowers wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think trillion dollar companies should not exist. They are inherently destructive to humanity.

Case in point. If the topic was that, then I'd welcome the discussion, but when you simply bring that to every discussion about Apple... it gets old. After all your statement only really needs to be said once for people to understand it, which makes the repetition over the years very grating. "Single issue posters" are generally the least engaging on the internet.

I'm not a single-issue poster. I'm an established engineer with a large amount of public writing, much of which has been on the HN front page!

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Post by layer8 »

infecto wrote: post #77
wafflemaker wrote: post #47

Lol, you're asking for it by using apple. I'm still recommending Apple to family members (less support needed from me, and I can always say I have Android and can't use apple so I can't help). But you have to go all in. If you want non apple stuff, just use something else. And if you can use Linux etc., why are you using Apple? Other then being lazy, which is totally ok.

I guess you could call it lazy, I value my time and have zero desire to tinker with the daily products I use. I am sure some enjoy it but I do not.

And GP is saying that that’s totally okay.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Post by sunshowers »

commakozzi wrote: post #176
EA-3167 wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something I learned a while ago is that there's a particular brand of very vocal person online who has a bone to pick with Apple. Sometimes it's for a good reason, sometimes less so, but the point is that they come to discussions of any Apple topic with a conclusion ready in hand and then work backwards from that. In this case the conclusion is, "Apple is wicked, perfidious, and monopolistic." Truthfully there isn't…

it's tiring isn't it?

The fucking article is about this, so it's very relevant.
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