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Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by thrance »

trhway wrote: post #42

i do wonder how Musk is planning to get FAA approvals for SpaceX if the federal stuff is decreased. Is he going to wait many weeks, months, years like the others will be waiting or is he personally going to cut the line? Or may be getting rid of FAA permits at all? Back to the time of great unlimited aviation and rocketry innovation. I personally have a bunch of non-traditional designs i'd like to get airborne/launch…

No, he'll get to do whatever he wants, you won't. You'll have to bribe your way through a corrupt bureaucracy, like in every failing nations.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by xyst »

The power dynamic between labor and capital (or managers in this case) in the US has shifted so much since our grandparents generation.

It’s hard to ignore it now. Our rights and safety nets have been stripped away. 40+ years of trickle down economics and other failed neoclassical/neoliberal economic theory have directly caused the situation we are in.

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Post by deadbabe »

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #2

The disruption is (part of) the point. Degrading the ability of government employees to do their jobs leads to greater inefficiency and more failure, which can then be pointed at to validate assertions that government isn't efficient and produces bad outcomes.

I have to ask with all this disruption, what if we were hit with a massive 9/11 scale attack right now?

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Post by _heimdall »

philistine wrote: post #27
selykg wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely insane that this is what we've come to. It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. We are regressing this country so rapidly that we are likely to become one of those shithole countries the president so loudly proclaimed Haiti, El Salvador and others were.

The is exactly a move the people in power in those troubled countries will use to maintain control over government. It used to be that the US government had pride in its own professionalism. The US is now acting like the countries it loves to destabilize.

> It used to be that the US government had pride in its own professionalism

It used to be that voters actually cared about professionalism, principles, and critical thinking.

Campaigning on really any of those doesn't work these days, its not surprising that our government has those same shortcomings.

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Post by thrance »

russdill wrote: post #159
mexicocitinluez wrote: post #139

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> Medicare negotiating more drugs I don't care what side you fall down on, the only reason someone would rollback Medicare negotiating drug prices is so that they can make more money on their big pharma stocks. I can't believe a bunch of grown adults voted for this shit.

Most of the people I talk to seem to have one thing they are holding on to as the thing they'll get out of their vote. Like "he's going to eliminate the income taxes I pay on my social security" etc The thing is almost never true, and even if he were is a horrible self centered justification.

He already passed tax cuts, but only for the wealthy. Literally reversed Robinhood.

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Post by jordanb »

anonzzzies wrote: post #135
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #125

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> Trump & Musk will walk out trillionaires Or in jail. We’re not at the coup stakes of life and death, but we’re also like two months into this Presidency. (For what it’s worth, Trump isn’t currently being coup-ish. That’s been left to the pretender.)

Which is why they are pushing so hard/fast; they need to destroy the right things to make sure they cannot be stopped.

It doesn't look like they're targeting the right things, given how much they've put into going after the FAA, NHTSA and NOAA. Not exactly dark-state power centers. Rather, they're people who've pissed of Elon specifically.

It seems like they're spending 30% of effort on the areas that are likely to foment a counter-coup and 70% of their time attacking groups they have personal beefs with.

But of course they're not just focusing on the powerless, they're also annoying the powerful enough that I don't see how it ends well for them.

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Post by inetknght »

peppers-ghost wrote: post #157
hnthrow90348765 wrote: post #58

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Well, Russia is destabilizing the US and winning which is why I think we're acting like that. And it seems all of our military and counterintelligence capabilities can't stop it. Too much offense, not enough defense, it seems.

I'm not even sure it's true Russia is doing this. I think our elected officials might just be really stupid on their own.

They can be really stupid on their own and it can also be Russia who's got their buttons labeled and is pushing them as needed for the dance recital. Except the recital was 4 years ago.

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Post by alabastervlog »

jgilias wrote: post #146
masfuerte wrote: post #112

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> Did people vote for Trump because they thought he was a liar? Yes! I know apparently smart people who voted for Trump because they thought that his more extreme rhetoric was merely intended to wind up the left. Like the first time he got elected. Except that this time he had a plan.

How could they fall for it. I mean, even during the first time it was obvious that he actually meant it, as he did try to enact all the crazy bullshit. The only saving grace was adults in the room around him. Now all the adults are gone.

IGs and others stopped him from doing some of the worst and dumbest stuff.

This time he (illegally) fired a bunch of them right out of the gate. The Heritage Foundation wasn't caught off guard (and a bit out in the cold) by his success this time, and backed him with a plan. They did it out in the open, the recruiting and a whole lot of specifics about what they wanted to do and how they were going to do it. It wasn't even close to a secret, you could literally go download and read documents, watch interviews of key figures in front of friendly audiences, that kind of thing.

With the Vance pick, you could also easily spot the Yarvin influence & connections and make some guesses about some things. When Elon started worming his way in, it was clear that side of it wasn't just going to be in the head of a VP who can't personally do much, but was going to have traction.

His voters who are now like "WTF?" need to sit down and have a serious think about how they got conned by someone who was standing under a neon sign with a flashing arrow pointing down at him that read "I am conning you! Signed: Donald Trump". Like I'm not sure it even counts as a con, it was so transparent.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by hnthrow90348765 »

peppers-ghost wrote: post #157
hnthrow90348765 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, Russia is destabilizing the US and winning which is why I think we're acting like that. And it seems all of our military and counterintelligence capabilities can't stop it. Too much offense, not enough defense, it seems.

I'm not even sure it's true Russia is doing this. I think our elected officials might just be really stupid on their own.

It's going to be difficult to get more of a smoking gun than a plan to drop sanctions and ceasing offensive cyber operations against Russia, as well as the US's lopsided Ukrainian peace deal and pulling financial support for Ukraine.

Russia has no military advantage against ours, so there is no reason to placate them due to a threat of war (nukes excluded here, unless Russia has rapidly outpaced us). The only thing that's left is the relationship between the leaders themselves.

If Trump were truly interested in isolationism, he'd instead have simply pulled support for Ukraine and not offered to be a part of negotiations, but many more things were offered for no obvious gain to us.

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