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Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Oh boy, a 6.1 inch screen. "Popular". Ugh. RIP any hopes of a small SE refresh.

I always hear people on hn asking for smaller screen. Apple actually made a small 12. It was the worst selling phone in the lineup.

The worst selling iPhone can still be a larger business than 50%+ of all android phones.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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It seems that this will cannibalize iPhone 16 sales - it's $200 cheaper, same form factor and internals, with the only difference being the camera, which if you care about you go for the Pro model. However, the price makes for a much more appealing upgrade for anyone who has an older iPhone

Apple has no problem with self cannibalization. See the iPod or the iPad with keyboard for example.

Counterpoint: removing Hypervisor API from iOS 16, ostensibly to prevent iPads from cannibalizing MacBooks.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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It is an iPhone 16, inside iPhone 14 Body, Single Camera from iPhone 16, with iPhone 14 OLED Screen, Apple Modem, Without UWB, Minus 1 GPU Core on A18, 7.5W MagSafe Charging same as iPhone 14. Wifi 6 instead of Wifi 7 on iPhone 16. However at $599, higher than the rumoured $499 or $549 pricing. iPhone 14 previously at $599 and iPhone SE at $429 are now gone. Getting rid of iPhone 14 and iPhone SE as they are both usi…

No MagSafe, only Qi (not Qi2). 800 nits typical brightness vs. 1000 for the 16, 1200 nits maximum brightness vs. 1600–2000 nits. Notch vs. dynamic island, of course.

Magsafe sticker is is 1$ for a pack of 10 so it's really not a problem.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Check out the battery life! > iPhone 16e has the best battery life ever on a 6.1-inch iPhone, lasting up to six hours longer than iPhone 11 and up to 12 hours longer than all generations of iPhone SE. Their page comparing models claims the new 16e gets "26 hours video playback." iPhone 16e: 26 hours iPhone 16: 22 hours iPhone 15: 20 hours iPhone 14: 20 hours iPhone 13: 19 hours iPhone 12: 17 hours iPhone 11: 17 hours…

It's possible the battery chemistry has also changed. In the last 12-18 months, a bunch of Android phones have gotten large battery capacity upgrades, apparently thanks to silicon-carbon anodes being mature enough for mass production. Presumably Apple is now doing the sam thing.

> In the last 12-18 months, a bunch of Android phones have gotten large battery capacity upgrades

Can you give some examples? I'd like to test one out but I'm not buying the most recent product as a rule.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No MagSafe, only Qi (not Qi2). 800 nits typical brightness vs. 1000 for the 16, 1200 nits maximum brightness vs. 1600–2000 nits. Notch vs. dynamic island, of course.

> No MagSafe, only Qi. Qi2 is based on Magsafe. https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/3/23538131/qi2-wireless-char...

Qi2 doesn’t require the magnetic component however.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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At this point there’s only really one thing I want from an iPhone and that’s an option for a 12/13 mini sized device again. Surely those phones didn’t sell so few that it’s not worth doing at all?

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No MagSafe, only Qi (not Qi2). 800 nits typical brightness vs. 1000 for the 16, 1200 nits maximum brightness vs. 1600–2000 nits. Notch vs. dynamic island, of course.

> No MagSafe, only Qi. Qi2 is based on Magsafe. https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/3/23538131/qi2-wireless-char...

I know, but the official specs and comparison page explicitly only say Qi (with 7.5 W) for the 16e where they say MagSafe and Qi2 (with 25 W) for the iPhone 16. The comparison page is also lacking the MagSafe symbol for the 16e.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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At the scale of Apple, is a specific device configuration that 'only' meets the needs of 3% of their market economically unviable? Did they build a whole special factory just for the slightly smaller device?

Not a whole factory but whole other tooling, so yes? The chassis is different, the screen is different, the mainboard is different, the layout is different, the battery is different, I think the camera was also different. Only thing shared between the other models was the buttons and the lightning port. It's a huge cost for something that sold (relatively) poorly.

Apple has huge margins, it's not a problem unless you think about margins. Making more money is normally good, even if the margin is slightly lower.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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iPhone SE: $429, 4.7-inch display, 5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29, 5.09 ounces iPhone 16e: $599, 6.1-inch display, 5.78 x 2.82 x 0.31, 5.88 ounces This is a major downgrade in every way for people who want the smallest possible iPhone.

The SE is not the smallest possible modern iPhone, just the smallest screen. The 13 mini has a larger screen but is physically smaller.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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It is an iPhone 16, inside iPhone 14 Body, Single Camera from iPhone 16, with iPhone 14 OLED Screen, Apple Modem, Without UWB, Minus 1 GPU Core on A18, 7.5W MagSafe Charging same as iPhone 14. Wifi 6 instead of Wifi 7 on iPhone 16. However at $599, higher than the rumoured $499 or $549 pricing. iPhone 14 previously at $599 and iPhone SE at $429 are now gone. Getting rid of iPhone 14 and iPhone SE as they are both usi…

> The lineup is a little strange. They have Macs they call Macbook Airs, but their Macbooks look like "Air" Macbooks, they really should have swapped the names on those models long ago.

They haven’t sold the MacBook you’re talking about since 2019.
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