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Re: Uchū – Color palette for internet lovers

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Post by NetOpWibby »

qingcharles wrote: post #161
NetOpWibby wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

*oklch codes And trust me, I didn't expect to get more than 10 upvotes max. I'm slightly bewildered.

I love the color choices, but what's the reason for defining each color twice, once with a "raw"?

> If you want more granularity (read: opacity), you can call the raw version of the color (append -raw to the variable name) which will return the OKLCH values so you can do something like this: oklch(var(--uchu-gray-1-raw) / 40%).

via https://github.com/NeverCease/uchu/blob/primary/documentatio...

Re: Uchū – Color palette for internet lovers

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Post by tacitusarc »

NetOpWibby wrote: post #84
daft_pink wrote: post #80

Why is this the color scheme for internet lovers?

I love the internet, and I love great colors...surely I cannot be the only one! ;)

No, this is not how words work. You may also love making chocolate, and love dogs, but you would not make chocolate and claim it was for dogs simply because you love both things.

For means there is a relationship, a benefit or inclusion between the two items. X for Y means that you have associated X with Y, and they should be used in conjunction.

There are so many valid uses of the word “for” and somehow this satisfies none of them.

See: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/for

Re: Uchū – Color palette for internet lovers

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Post by dqv »

Aeolun wrote: post #157
wkat4242 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there's too much focus on 'readability' these days. At work we have a new team that's making us measure all the contrasts for people with reading difficulties. Contrast has to be > 80% or something. And text sizes huge. And they don't allow us to change our themes. Or to install plugins like dark reader "for security". Problem is, it makes everything super fugly and eye-straining for everyone else (considerin…

Lack of contrast hinders everyone with any kind of vision issues (old/colorblind etc.) “Too much” contrast means young hipsters complain it burns their eyes. Even the highest standards for readability leave a comfortable range for expressing creativity (and soft colors), it’s not like they require #000 on #FFF.

> Lack of contrast hinders everyone with any kind of vision issues (old/colorblind etc.)

False. Someone with some kind, but not everyone with any kind. This broad stroke that you've just painted is counter to the goals of accessibility.

> “Too much” contrast means young hipsters complain it burns their eyes.

Let's not trivialize disabilities we don't even know exist. But if you wanted to research this, you can look up the term "photophobia" or "light sensitivity".

> Even the highest standards for readability leave a comfortable range for expressing creativity (and soft colors), it’s not like they require #000 on #FFF.

Again, false.

Let's consult Accessibility Requirements for People with Low Vision:

> 2.4.2 Light and Glare Sensitivity

> Many people with low vision have extreme sensitivity to light (called photophobia). Bright light makes it difficult or impossible to see, and causes eye pain and headaches. For some people, the normal brightness of a computer screen with a light background is not readable and painful. They need to change the background to a darker color. Glare sensitivity is common with age-related vision changes and cataracts.

> [...]

> 3.1.2 Text Contrast

> As mentioned in the Light Sensitivity section, some people need low brightness, especially for backgrounds. Some people who need low brightness for backgrounds also need low brightness overall and thus need low brightness text.

> Other people need high contrast between text and background, including many older people who lose contrast sensitivity from ageing. Some read better with dark text on light background.

> For some people, common color combinations or colors from a limited color palette work fine, for example, black text on white background or the inverse with white text on black background. Other people need to select more specific background and text colors. For example, people who need low brightness overall, need to select the specific background and text colors that provide sufficient contrast for them yet not too high brightness. Readable and optimal color combinations differs vastly among individuals and can even vary for one individual depending on conditions such as fatigue and lighting.

(emphasis mine)

Source: https://w3c.github.io/low-vision-a11y-tf/requirements.html

Re: Uchū – Color palette for internet lovers

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Post by dxdm »

NetOpWibby wrote: post #155
magic_rock wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hackernews users are getting softer and softer. Such a childish reaction to a simple website.

You can't please every body. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ I just made something for me and shared for maybe 10 other people to possibly like? I didn't expect to be angering people.

Sorry for the angry reactions. The funniest one so far are the people who are upset that there is no rigorous connection to internet love spelt out for them.

FWIW, these colors look fun and made my winter Monday morning a little brighter. Thanks!

Re: Uchū – Color palette for internet lovers

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Post by NetOpWibby »

dxdm wrote: post #175
NetOpWibby wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't please every body. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ I just made something for me and shared for maybe 10 other people to possibly like? I didn't expect to be angering people.

Sorry for the angry reactions. The funniest one so far are the people who are upset that there is no rigorous connection to internet love spelt out for them. FWIW, these colors look fun and made my winter Monday morning a little brighter. Thanks!

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Re: Uchū – Color palette for internet lovers

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Post by Aeolun »

dqv wrote: post #174
Aeolun wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lack of contrast hinders everyone with any kind of vision issues (old/colorblind etc.) “Too much” contrast means young hipsters complain it burns their eyes. Even the highest standards for readability leave a comfortable range for expressing creativity (and soft colors), it’s not like they require #000 on #FFF.

> Lack of contrast hinders everyone with any kind of vision issues (old/colorblind etc.) False. Someone with some kind, but not everyone with any kind. This broad stroke that you've just painted is counter to the goals of accessibility. > “Too much” contrast means young hipsters complain it burns their eyes. Let's not trivialize disabilities we don't even know exist. But if you wanted to research this, you can look u…

> Let's not trivialize disabilities we don't even know exist.

Ok, fair. But I don’t think it’s an accident that all the people I hear complain about contrast being too high are 20-something engineers.

There’s nothing about good contrast that says it needs to blaze your eyes off. You can have perfectly good contrast with a completely black background and minimal amounts of light. Like I said, there’s no reason that “contrast” needs to mean black on white.

Re: Uchū – Color palette for internet lovers

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Post by easygenes »

Very cool! Nice convenient OKLCH palette.

Is it just me or do purples 5 through 8 not seem as differentiated as all the other colors across the palette?

Was this an intentional choice?

Note: I have no color sensitivity deficiencies and a reasonable understanding of color theory.

Re: Uchū – Color palette for internet lovers

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

wkat4242 wrote: post #88
Aeolun wrote: post #15

Have you tried running any readability analysis on this? Feels like the contrast on the background and foreground is too low to make for comfortable (long term) reading.

I think there's too much focus on 'readability' these days. At work we have a new team that's making us measure all the contrasts for people with reading difficulties. Contrast has to be > 80% or something. And text sizes huge. And they don't allow us to change our themes. Or to install plugins like dark reader "for security". Problem is, it makes everything super fugly and eye-straining for everyone else (considerin…

I'm not colorblind, but I'm older, and I can't read the kind of low-contrast stuff I wouldn't even notice as being low-contrast in my 20s or 30s.

Re: Uchū – Color palette for internet lovers

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Post by Timwi »

gnatman wrote: post #100
theandrewbailey wrote: post #47

If you design a webpage that looks like an app loading screen, and have to put the word "SCROLL" at the bottom, I think that's a design failure, for the same/similar reasons that "click here" links are.

I disagree, and perceived it as a fun invitation. Come on- it was blinking!

I absolutely despise anything moving or blinking on websites when it's not in response to my own command. I usually immediately close tabs that do it. If I absolutely need to read a website, I will first use the inspector to nuke the element that is exhibiting the distraction. Otherwise I simply can't read anything and also retain it.
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