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A Year of Telepathy

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Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by hoseja »

MathMonkeyMan wrote: post #77
SimianSci wrote: post #74

I very violently recoil from any of Musk's ventures these days. Im sure there are some very smart and talented people working at Neuralink. They should go work for someone else as their boss has shown himself to be a revolting person and the kind of leader who seeks to actively harm people who inconvenience him. This kind of behavior is not befitting of a company that will need to cultivate an incredible amount of tr…

What is the problem with Musk? I know his many shenanigans, but what about his helmanship causes you to violently recoil?

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Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by pona-a »

nomilk wrote: post #102

> Noland suffered a spinal cord injury in a swimming accident and became paralyzed below his shoulders. Noland spent most of his days in bed. His primary digital device was a tablet which he controlled using a mouth-held stylus (mouth stick). The mouth stick not only caused discomfort and fatigue after prolonged use, but it also had to be put in place by a caregiver > He is now able to control a cursor with his thoug…

We can still see the motion is forced, the cursor takes non-direct paths, actively doges away from targets, requiring active steering to stay put long enough to press them. While there are few misclicks, it feels like a product of active effort more than the inherent accuracy.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by croes »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #69
croes wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it won’t help get them a job because DEI is bad.

Nobody prevents them from getting a job, as long as they pass the interview like everyone else.

Yeah sure, because having a disability, the wrong skin color or wrong gender was never the reason for not getting hired.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by Timwi »

zensavona wrote: post #57
discordance wrote: post #56

Between 2018 and 2022 "the company has tested on and killed at least 1,500 animals — over 280 sheep, pigs, and monkeys, as well as mice and rats." [0] 0: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2022/12/11/23500157/neura...

Being concerned about animal testing seems pretty silly coming from people who likely eat pigs, sheep and other intelligent animals every day, who likely lived in just as bad conditions if not worse their whole lives leading up to them becoming food. I also eat meat, it just seems a bit ironic to me.

Right, but neither irony nor hypocrisy means that it's wrong. Murder is wrong and if a murderer on death row says that murder is wrong they are still correct.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by misja111 »

Philpax wrote: post #109
zensavona wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being concerned about animal testing seems pretty silly coming from people who likely eat pigs, sheep and other intelligent animals every day, who likely lived in just as bad conditions if not worse their whole lives leading up to them becoming food. I also eat meat, it just seems a bit ironic to me.

I'm pulling out my vegetarian pass to say, without hypocrisy, that Neuralink's animal testing record appears to be pretty horrific.

If you're using non-vegan products such as soap, shampoo or certain medicines you are complicit to animal testing as well.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by hoseja »

Veserv wrote: post #68
zensavona wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being concerned about animal testing seems pretty silly coming from people who likely eat pigs, sheep and other intelligent animals every day, who likely lived in just as bad conditions if not worse their whole lives leading up to them becoming food. I also eat meat, it just seems a bit ironic to me.

You are ignoring the benefit side of a benefit-harm morality analysis. Eating an animal at least ostensibly has positive value for the people doing so. However, there are plenty of forms of "animal testing" that confer zero positive value. For instance, testing the wrong compound or inserting the wrong implant confers zero benefit. Having improper controls, "testing" nonsensical theories, repeating stale results poor…

> testing the wrong compound or inserting the wrong implant confers zero benefit

It's called learning. That's why they are doing it in the first place.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by amelius »

MathMonkeyMan wrote: post #77
SimianSci wrote: post #74

I very violently recoil from any of Musk's ventures these days. Im sure there are some very smart and talented people working at Neuralink. They should go work for someone else as their boss has shown himself to be a revolting person and the kind of leader who seeks to actively harm people who inconvenience him. This kind of behavior is not befitting of a company that will need to cultivate an incredible amount of tr…

What is the problem with Musk? I know his many shenanigans, but what about his helmanship causes you to violently recoil?

Pulling out of USAID probably killed more helpless people than his companies helped enhance lives.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by InDubioProRubio »

OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #8
hexator wrote: post #2

Not mentioned at all is the failure rate, which back in May was reported by Ars to be 85% with the first patient, Noland. [1] [1] https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/05/neuralink-to-implant...

This is 85% of the threads in the device failed, yet it was allegedly mitigated after a software update, and usage of Neurolink continued to climb for the patient, suggesting the device is still functional

What about the scar tissue those implants generate? How did they avoid that?

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by InDubioProRubio »

jeff_vader wrote: post #154

Isn't the main showstopper issue to solve for brain implants is scarring response or something similar? That is when body responds to the implant and surrounds electrodes with some sort of tissue reducing its effectiveness. Has Neuralink made any advancements in that area?

Yes, they cloned some minions to downvote biologic reality.. Posted the same questions. Got nil response. If they had a break through, you could see it at the patent search.
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