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To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by gambiting »

ta1243 wrote: post #136

A 20 year old Clio costs €6,600? Seems somewhat steep - I'd expect nearer to €660! I'm not sure why he's got problems returning, I'd expect Dutch consumer protection laws to make this an open and shut case.

Probably the fact that he's not Dutch, doesn't live in the Netherlands, and while yes you are 100% correct that the law is on his side and should be able to just return it for a full refund, it might be a task so daunting for someone who is from a different country that he just doesn't want to attempt it.\

EDIT: oh wait, he did do that actually:

>> On January 5, 2025 I called Tesla Netherlands Sales Department to request the return of the vehicle and a refund of my money.

Sounds like he should contact a dutch lawyer to send them an official letter informing that he's returning the goods as unfit to use.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by necovek »

cjrp wrote: post #112
PeeMcGee wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cold weather alert especially gets on my nerves. I appreciate the heads up, but I don't appreciate the HUD crying wolf about stuff that doesn't require my immediate attention.

This is my biggest bugbear with VW (and related) cars. The "it's below 4ºc" message has the same warning tone as messages about tyre pressures, engine malfunctions, etc.

I'd be more worried that you already know how an engine malfunction alert sounds like!

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by gloxkiqcza »

jug wrote: post #86
Zanfa wrote: post #60

Putting aside the ethics of buying a Tesla in 2024, who buys a car brand legendary for unreliability and ridiculously long service times in a country that doesn't even have a dealership? Some people like to live dangerously.

With the horror stories I've heard, my max range from a national dealership would be around 80 km.

Tesla Center Vienna is a 70 km drive from Bratislava.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by bschwindHN »

I've lived in Japan for the past 10 years, where I didn't own a car the entire time. A year ago I moved to a place where a car is more or less needed. I bought a used 2015 kei car for around $2800 cash. It's awesome.

There are zero screens, touch or not (not counting the instrument displays). Everything is operated with the old buttons and dials, though the windows are electrically operated. It has a 3.5mm stereo input and a USB port (which supports USB audio). I haven't measured exactly but its fuel efficiency is fantastic, probably 70 mpg or more.

It has very common parts and can be serviced basically anywhere in the country. I see tons of the same car on the road everywhere.

Downsides of course are the engine is fairly weak, and it's not as safe in an accident compared to bigger cars. But if you're driving in a country where everyone else is driving small cars, that's less of a concern.

I don't know what the point of writing all that was, but I'm just glad to not be in the same car situation as the OP. It doesn't have to be that way!

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by fiftyacorn »

physicsguy wrote: post #94
fiftyacorn wrote: post #55

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Is it not the case that any tariff would apply to US made tesla's where the majority of the global stock is made in China, so wouldnt necessarily be affected?

I don't think so since Tesla isn't importing the China made cars into the US, ergo no tariff to pay.

likewise a counter tariff from another country will not affect tesla as global stocks are prob from china

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by krageon »

Gare wrote: post #82
q3k wrote: post #41

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I assumed they missed an 'h' there. People seem to get easily confused by the W/Wh and A/Ah thing. A rental car I've took recently showed power usage in 'kWh per hour'. Bleh.

kWh/h is a proper unit for average energy consumption over time, if a bit weird.

It's something that's used, but I'd make the case it was never proper. The time component is right there!

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by dignick »

I bought a model Y in ‘22. I had some initial problems like a creaky back seat and the floor popping like a jam lid, but after a few service visits those were resolved and since it has been very reliable and even gained nice new features like matrix headlights which avoid oncoming vehicles. It’s a great car to drive.

However, when it received the holiday update with Apple Watch support, and I paired my watch, it started losing several % charge every day. I contacted service who told me to reset my password, which effectively disconnects all connected devices from your account. That solved it. Then I paired my watch again, same problem.

In the next update, Tesla fixed it. And in the next update, it automatically paired your watch without asking. Brave/risky of them, given the previous issues.

My biggest concern for this car now, other than getting abuse for owning a Tesla or the brakes rusting up [1], is Tesla releasing a software update that breaks something, possibly dangerously. With Musk’s recent behaviour I wouldn’t be surprised if talented engineers are leaving or considering it, perhaps excluding Musk’s favoured h1b employees…

[1] https://www.carscoops.com/2024/11/tesla-model-3-comes-bottom...

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by teekert »

Gigachad wrote: post #151
teekert wrote: post #116

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I think it is unnecessary to say "Putting aside the ethics". This is a very personal thing, for you it would (presumably) take putting aside your ethics, and maybe it would for me. But that is not the case for everyone. I for one don't like it when people online, with every statement, signal their personal ethics. It gets to be very tiresome and degrades my HN experience. Actually it is degrading my whole internet br…

Personally I draw the line somewhere before not funding someone who does nazi salutes. But you do you.

Again an opinion, Musk said it was not a Nazi salute, he didn't repeat it, he has many Jewish supporters also saying it wasn't. Just stop, please, I'm really about to give up on the comment sections here.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by chikere232 »

teekert wrote: post #150
chikere232 wrote: post #135

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It's pretty useful to remind people that buying a tesla is supporting Musk.

Correction: You think that is useful. There are also people supporting Musk, should they add their statement to all of their posts? Is it really relevant? Don't you think people can't think for themselves? I follow the news, I'm pretty capable of deciding if I want a Tesla or not, people adding to all their posts that I should not doesn't change anything other then make me annoyed. Perhaps some like it, probably when…

I think there are lots of sort of tuned out but generally nice people who might shy away from buying a tesla if the perfidity of Musk is mentioned whenever tesla is discussed.

The people who like Musk are probably beyond help

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