Gabe Newell Wants to Support Linux, Because Windows 8 is a 'Catastrophe'

Post by adrianN » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 11:47 AM UTC

shock3naw wrote: post #171

james4k wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steam's cut is 30%. However, for that 30% you get to update your game whenever you want, and virtually as often as you want. By that I mean they don't impose any direct limits on how often you update, but the general rule is no more than once a week aside from hotfixes and the like. I'm not aware of any digital marketplace that gives you this much control, especially as video game updates will often be hundreds of me…

Wow. $40,000 to push an update. Microsoft should put this into practice themselves and refund customers whenever Windows needs a patch.

Post by shock3naw » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 12:02 PM UTC

adrianN wrote: post #172

shock3naw wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. $40,000 to push an update. Microsoft should put this into practice themselves and refund customers whenever Windows needs a patch.

I'm pretty sure pushing an update to all Windows users costs way more in bandwidth alone.

Post by prawks » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 12:47 PM UTC

Ralz wrote: post #118

recoiledsnake wrote: post #12

I think the headline of the article is pretty misleading as he means that Windows 8 is a catastrophe for Steam because of the Windows 8 app store. Looks like everyone's upvoting the article because they seem to think that Gabe meant that Windows 8 will be a failure. Instead of having to go through Steam's distribution, games will have the option of going directly to the Windows 8 app store and get featured there, not…

Unless the video game developer is creating a game only for metro then the Windows Store will not cause any harm to Valve. Although it is possible to list a non metro application in the store ( http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windowsstore/archive/2012/06/08/list... ) users will not be able to purchase or directly download those applications from the store and MS does not take a cut of non metro apps. You bring up a good poin…

Post by ralfn » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 1:19 PM UTC

b0rsuk wrote: post #137

ralfn wrote: post #105

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The headline is misleading. He was talking very much, from his vested interest point of view. He was not dismissing the quality or value of win8 for consumers. But he is allowed to be a bit upset: Steam is effectively not allowed on Metro. And there was loyalty between Valve and Microsoft. In general, he dislikes the verticalisation in the market; how consumer devices will all be (media,game,app) consoles. But to see…

Nitpick: without Steam and without any equivalent of it, PC gaming would have (probably) died 5 years ago. Your sentence is like saying that without Internet Explorer, we would still be paying for internet browsers. It's praising Microsoft for what it did and mysteriously assuming that in absence of it, no one else would bring the cost of browsers down. This is my nitpick with "what if X didn't exist" scenarios: peop…

Post by lifeformed » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 1:53 PM UTC

recoiledsnake wrote: post #131

james4k wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steam's cut is 30%. However, for that 30% you get to update your game whenever you want, and virtually as often as you want. By that I mean they don't impose any direct limits on how often you update, but the general rule is no more than once a week aside from hotfixes and the like. I'm not aware of any digital marketplace that gives you this much control, especially as video game updates will often be hundreds of me…

>Steam's cut is 30%. However, for that 30% you get to update your game whenever you want, and virtually as often as you want. By that I mean they don't impose any direct limits on how often you update, but the general rule is no more than once a week aside from hotfixes and the like. Is there any reference for that?