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Re: Science YouTuber physicsgirl (Dianna Cowern) stands for the first time in 2 yrs

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Post by garganzol »

We already had deeply insightful discussions on this topic here, but I will repeat for new HN people.

Covid-19 tends to cause post-viral complications, which manifest themselves as chronic fatigue, body temperature dysregulation, air hunger / shortness of breath with SpO2 of 99%, various neurological symptoms: pain/tingling/numbing sensations in the extremities, parosmia (a distorted sense of smell), parageusia (a distorted sense of taste), difficulties swallowing, cognitive decline.

According to numerous trials and errors by different people, it was collectively concluded that the condition is caused by some kind of metabolic impairment that presumably affects the ability of mitochondria to produce the adequate levels of ATP. As a direct consequence of that insufficiency, the immune system gets activated and starts to attack body's own tissues. When this happens, the blood vessels start to develop micro-clotting, causing blood flow problems that exacerbate metabolic issues even further. Additional tell signs are increased HOMA-IR and/or triglycerides in the blood work, suggesting that cells of the body cannot utilize the nutrient substrates in full.

This represents a vicious cycle of a typical post-Covid pathology. The good news is that it can be treated and healed. The bad news is that it may take some time (months, years) and will power, while medical workers around the corner have no clue. The core of therapy consists of a light immunosuppression in conjunction with therapeutical doses of specific vitamins and vitamin-like substances, all being supported with minerals, vitamin-rich diet, good rest, good sleep, mild physical and mental activities every day.

For those people who still suffering from it, I am putting a link to a site [0] that aggregates some first-hand evidences and research information. A usual note of caution is that every situation is different and you should consult your doctor.

[0] https://hormonesmatter.com/?s=covid

Edit: "collectively concluded" is used in the sense that post-covid suffers were able to gain observable improvements in their condition being "a collective of people" suffering from post-covid.

Re: Science YouTuber physicsgirl (Dianna Cowern) stands for the first time in 2 yrs

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Post by snakeyjake »

ekianjo wrote: post #153
Tade0 wrote: post #69

That's great to hear. I remember Simone Giertz breaking out the bad news to her followers and sounding no less serious than when she was talking about her own brain surgery. My former co-worker got COVID twice, as preventive measures didn't fit into his moral framework, and the second time resulted in a mild case of long COVID. I'm saying "mild" as he was not bedridden, but the cognitive decline was noticeable. Long…

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Masks, gloves, and frequent hand washing with soap and warm water have been proven to work for both COVID and other viral diseases and this has been settled science for a long, long, time.

Of course your definition of "proven to work" may mean "works 100% of the time with no exceptions" and that is an impossible bar to meet.

My, and many others', definition of "proven to work" is "reduces the rate of spread to the point that pandemics are impossible once an outbreak has been detected".

I've been a volunteer EMT for over 20 years and have interacted with many patients. In the mid-2000s after a particularly nasty bout of gastroenteritis I became the PPE (personal protective equipment) and hygiene tyrant.

Despite handling so many COVID patients it is impossible to even begin counting them, I have never tested positive for COVID and during the height of the pandemic I was being tested weekly (I was both a critical defense worker who needed a passed test to work in person AND a public health worker).

edit: that DOES NOT mean that PPE is 100% effective, it means that PPE in plus my hyper-anal stance on hygiene PLUS good old fashioned random chance favored me.

Even today I will don a mask prior to interacting with a patient if dispatch tells me there are respiratory issues and will put one on the second I hear a cough.

Between PPE and vaccines I can count the number of times I have been sick since 2020 on zero fingers.

Re: Science YouTuber physicsgirl (Dianna Cowern) stands for the first time in 2 yrs

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Post by II2II »

y-curious wrote: post #149
thesuitonym wrote: post #144

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This is literally the definition of victim-blaming: "Victim blaming occurs when the victim of a crime or any wrongful act is held entirely or partially at fault for the harm that befell them." Imagine if I said "She always wore low-cut dresses. Her lack of preventative measures caused her to get raped. She did it to herself!" Lots of people masking up still get COVID.

> Lots of people masking up still get COVID.

Lots of people are careful while crossing the street, yet some of those careful people still get hit by cars. That doesn't mean that you stop being careful while crossing the street.

As for the whole mask debate. I'm not sure how effective they were ate preventing people from catching COVID. After all, most people wore masks that were poorly fitting. I am fairly confident that it cut down on the amount of airborne COVID, or at least reduced exposure in face-to-face interactions. Unfortunately, most people only seemed to be concerned about the selfish angle and few people seemed to be concerned about the selfless angle.

Re: Science YouTuber physicsgirl (Dianna Cowern) stands for the first time in 2 yrs

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Post by dev18019 »

jf22 wrote: post #156
leandrod wrote: post #146

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It's interesting to me how COVID vaccine skepticism has persisted so long despite the evidence the vaccine was safe and effective. All the nightmare scenarios and long-term side effects people speculated about never happened and more and more doses of the vaccine have been taken safely.

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Re: Science YouTuber physicsgirl (Dianna Cowern) stands for the first time in 2 yrs

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Post by davidt84 »

lupusreal wrote: post #164
trompetenaccoun wrote: post #147

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I live in Kenya and have not heard of a single person who got "long covid", or knows someone who does. It has nothing to do with working oneself to death as you imagine, this is a phenomenon that does not exist outside a certain social bubble. You say you speak from experience. What exactly is your third world experience based on?

Post-viral fatigue definitely happens in Africa, but only very privileged people with the means to lay around doing nothing will allow it to knock them down so hard they literally don't stand up once in two years. Post-viral fatigue to this degree is a phenomenon of the idle upper class. It doesn't paralyze you, it just makes you tired and miserable. Normal people push through and carry on, because they must.

Or they die.

Re: Science YouTuber physicsgirl (Dianna Cowern) stands for the first time in 2 yrs

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Post by perching_aix »

ekianjo wrote: post #153
Tade0 wrote: post #69

That's great to hear. I remember Simone Giertz breaking out the bad news to her followers and sounding no less serious than when she was talking about her own brain surgery. My former co-worker got COVID twice, as preventive measures didn't fit into his moral framework, and the second time resulted in a mild case of long COVID. I'm saying "mild" as he was not bedridden, but the cognitive decline was noticeable. Long…

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Re: Science YouTuber physicsgirl (Dianna Cowern) stands for the first time in 2 yrs

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Post by mikeyouse »

qiine wrote: post #145
penjelly wrote: post #86

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Hi, I couldn't glean from the articles. But it sounds like you have breathing issues from long covid? it may sound ridiculous, but I developed gluten/lactose sensitivity during covid times. If I avoid gluten, lactose, canola oil I get far fewer symptoms. I know this likely isn't your issue but I do experience positive airway pressure, coughing, burping, chronic fatigue, exessive yawning. If that sounds like you maybe…

> "its in your head" insane that it's still so common...

I really get the sentiment that if you look at people who are told "it's all in your head" and then they find some obscure condition that is treatable, it might be considered borderline malpractice for the physician to have told them that... but does the frequency with which patients are told that maybe give some insight into how many psychosomatic patients there really are out there?

Re: Science YouTuber physicsgirl (Dianna Cowern) stands for the first time in 2 yrs

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Post by II2II »

qiine wrote: post #145
penjelly wrote: post #86

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Hi, I couldn't glean from the articles. But it sounds like you have breathing issues from long covid? it may sound ridiculous, but I developed gluten/lactose sensitivity during covid times. If I avoid gluten, lactose, canola oil I get far fewer symptoms. I know this likely isn't your issue but I do experience positive airway pressure, coughing, burping, chronic fatigue, exessive yawning. If that sounds like you maybe…

> "its in your head" insane that it's still so common...

In my mind, that doesn't make the symptoms any less real to the person suffering from them and does absolutely nothing to remedy the situation. Even if it is in the person's head, any doctor offering that advice should be facing consequences for not offering a legitimate path for treatment.

Re: Science YouTuber physicsgirl (Dianna Cowern) stands for the first time in 2 yrs

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Post by armchairdweller »

teebSQAD9 wrote: post #162
armchairdweller wrote: post #138

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That nicotine patches help with focus is no surprise if you have been naive to nicotine before. I have been using patches on and off (like years of no usage in-between) for focus, and 7mg is actually a lot. Is there anything indicating that it is not just the effect of nicotine, and truly helps against whatever lingers inside your body (the spike protein)? Given other people around me talking about treating their lon…

Good questions, and I don’t have great answers. 7mg was the weakest patch I could get at a pharmacy (in the UK), and as I understand it that’s the release over 24 hours; I wore them only during the day so it’s a lower dose. If it’s proportional it’s ~5mg, which is 2-3 cigarettes, but cigarettes deliver it much faster, I believe. I have since spoken to a doctor who suggested that if I relapse I should cut them in half…

I've always bought the flat matrix patches so I could cut them into pieces — worked well for keeping things in limits. If it works for you this is good to hear of course – I wanted to share my2c of skepticism since for above reasons I was suspicious about the hype around it. Btw, if you google a bit deeper you will find a 2020 trial on clinical personell wearing the patches since there were signs it reduces covid infections, so there were early signs that nicotine might help.

As for nattokinase, I'd recommend looking around for diverse real-life experiences (I believe actual studies on long-COVID patients are still lacking). I'm not up to date, but I remember many people went straight for (Amazon-sourced) nattokinase supplements, and for some, it was too much and it made them feel ill.

Otherwise (not sure whether this would deliver the therapeutic dose you might need) natto itself makes a good breakfast — traditionally on rice with a runny egg, but it works as beans on toast too. Good Asian markets carry it in their freezers, imported directly from Japan (buy the versions with soy sauce / mustard). I had it regularly while I was over there, and there’s no difference in taste or effect (comparable to a small dose of aspirin). To the best of my knowledge, deep freezing isn’t an issue with the ingredients.

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