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Goodbye, Slopify

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Re: Goodbye, Slopify

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It's astonishing just how awful Spotify's software is. Everything it does, it does poorly, even down to things like playback and playlists that were figured out by other media players decades ago. Just this week, it started randomly playing music on its own when I open it. The fact that this thread has over a hundred comments within an hour speaks to just how despised it is. Spotify truly isn't a software company the…

I quit Spotify in the mid 2010s solely because the software was so bad, which robbed me of the satisfaction I might get today from quitting due to its even worse offenses.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's at odds with millions of people but also in agreement with millions of others. I also don't listen to podcasts for the same reason. Spotify shouldn't push something that so many people detest without letting them opt out.

I don't think there's evidence for this. While listening to podcasts is evidence of liking them, not listening to podcasts isn't evidence for detesting them.

Spotify has over 640 million active users. Of those, 100 million are active podcast listeners, despite having an app they frequently use that lets them listen to podcasts. This suggests that many of Spotify's users hate podcasts as much as they hate the wacky morning DJs who say democracy's a joke.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

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"I'm not seeing a problem so how is there a problem" is not the right critique in an era where the selection algorithm is so personalised. Spotify is awful for me, I concur with the original article. YouTube Music is heading slowly the same way. At this rate I'll have to cast around for another phone that can take an SD card again. The service I really miss is eMusic, they had little in the way of well known music so…

Get a standalone music player and you will have full control (but you also may have some upfront work to do your music downloading and create your playlists but worth it imo). I got a Miyoo Mini game emulator for my kid and ended up getting one for myself, all for ~$50. Being offline (by choice, the device does have wifi) and being able fully customize the thing, backup the SD it's really great. It's such a whiff of…

A lot of the get an iPod comments ignore music discovery. I like new music and think new music is good and would like to discover new music. Having to buy all the music I want to try would be to expensive.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#175

Even before the rise of AI music, they started "customizing" playlists based on the algorithm, so that you see different songs compared to someone else who subscribes to the same playlist. This was one of the reasons why I left Spotify. There are hundreds of posts about this issue on the Spotify community site, e.g. https://community.spotify.com/t5/Content-Questions/Option-to... https://community.spotify.com/t5/Conte…

I really don’t like this feature—I enjoyed their genre/mood oriented running playlists explicitly as a way to listen to stuff well outside of my usual listening while out on runs, but since they made them “made for you” they’re strictly worse. Relentless algorithmic sameness is everywhere and I’m sick of it. Spotify is also funny for maintaining the existence of their feature suggestion community boards while just ut…

> maintaining the existence of their feature suggestion community boards while just utterly stonewalling for years while thousands of paying users beg for stuff

my one I've been asking them for years for is the ability to quickly swap profiles on a family plan. (first world problem i know!)

My daughter, not being able to swap to her profile on our main media machine has utterly destroyed the utility of Discover Weekly for me, and for a time that was my favorite spotify feature.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#177

Even before the rise of AI music, they started "customizing" playlists based on the algorithm, so that you see different songs compared to someone else who subscribes to the same playlist. This was one of the reasons why I left Spotify. There are hundreds of posts about this issue on the Spotify community site, e.g. https://community.spotify.com/t5/Content-Questions/Option-to... https://community.spotify.com/t5/Conte…

One thing I've seen recently: My daylist will be named the same, but have (usually very slightly) different songs between different platforms (e.g. Mac vs iPhone). Not the end of the world, but very strange.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

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Does anyone have any good tools for migrating off of spotify? And where to go? I’d like Apple but their apps are horrendous and they completely bastardized the classic Music app pre streaming.

“Their apps are horrendous.”

I’ll give a counterpoint: with a subscription, Apple Music for iPad is quite literally the best personal music exploration/listening app on the market. A quiet room and good pair of headphones is all the rest you need.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#179
I don’t get it. If you want to avoid algorithmic garbage maybe don’t subscribe to a playlist made by an algorithm. There are tons and tons of human curated playlists on Spotify. There are also hundreds of radio stations across the US streaming online for free.

People have these ultra narrow niche picky preferences and then ragequit when they don’t get their way.

“I want a machine learning customized playlist but it should have perfect intuition about what is made by humans and what is not and if you can’t make that I’ll call you ‘garbage.’”

We can’t even sort email properly with algos and we’ve been trying for over 30 years. We can’t block phishing.

If you hate Spotify so much go back to your cd collection or try pirating mp3s again. That service is a miracle — dozens and dozens of startups burned hundreds of millions trying to build something like that years before - and all people can do is whine. “Mehhh, it’s electron, waaaaa”. Ok go make your own service in c++ or whatever and then get all the major labels on board and then make it popular and then make it profitable. I’ll wait. Or actually I won’t I think I’ll go listen to Money for Nothing on Spotify on any of five or six operating systems.

Tech is wasted on people like this. Show some appreciation for the miracles around us. Spotify is one of them.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#180

Even before the rise of AI music, they started "customizing" playlists based on the algorithm, so that you see different songs compared to someone else who subscribes to the same playlist. This was one of the reasons why I left Spotify. There are hundreds of posts about this issue on the Spotify community site, e.g. https://community.spotify.com/t5/Content-Questions/Option-to... https://community.spotify.com/t5/Conte…

Similarly to making so many of the playlists "made for you", they've completely ruined the "radio" feature. You used to be able to select the radio option on a song, artist, or playlist and get a playlist of songs that seemed to be a good mix of musically similar and being liked by people who liked the selected starting point.

Starting at some point around 2 years ago (it seems they A-B tested this for a while because it went back and forth), the radio option became so highly customized to your user account that most songs it plays will be ones you've heard a billion times, even songs that aren't remotely similar in any way other than that you like them.

And the playlist radio option, which was the most powerful one for discovery, has been completely removed.

I used the radio option for years to discover new music, and I really loved it. Now I feel a twinge of sadness mixed with rage when my memories of the good days get me to open Spotify and I remember what it's become.

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