Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

cjonline.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

171–180 of 424 posts

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

#171

Post by tbrownaw »

behringer wrote: post #73
Waterluvian wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if we’d do better in discourse to stop pointing at an “administration.” It is a reflection of what a plurality, often majority, of people want.

The majority of people don't want this. 36 percent of americans didn't vote. That doesn't mean they don't want services, that means that in addition to 74 million that voted against trump, 90 million more also didn't want him.

No, it means that over a third of people DGAF. They neither do want it nor don't want it.

(It's like NULL values in SQL, only much worse because it's in real life.)

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

#172

Post by ceejayoz »

aikinai wrote: post #158
_yb2s wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m an academic scientist part of a really large government funded research grant that employs hundreds of people. Last time, we had to fire half our staff immediately right up front because they said they were cutting our funding. They ended up not cutting our funding at all, but we had already fired everyone so it was lose lose- the Government spent the money but the research couldn’t be done. Just plain bad leader…

Where did the money go then?

At the very least, some went to unemployment benefits, I’d expect.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

#173

Post by mikeyouse »

ziddoap wrote: post #32
admissionsguy wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It came from abroad.

From where? When? Baffles me that someone would write something so definitively yet not expand on it in any way at all. Not saying you're wrong (I have no idea), but what a low-effort comment. I'm curious, you seem (or claim, at least) to know something, can you help me satisfy my curiosity?

From the linked UNMC article;

> The outbreak involved 13 people across four households in Kansas City and spanned 1 year. While a majority of the seven adults identified were born outside the U.S. in a country that had experienced a multidrug-resistant TB outbreak with the same genotype in 2007-2009, most of the six children were U.S.-born, noted Elizabeth Groenweghe, MPH, of the Unified Government Public Health Department in Kansas City, and colleagues in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

So it's either been a latent infection in someone in the first household or they traveled to their home country and brought it back, or something.. it's likely the local health department knows the exact lineage and route it took but they avoid publishing the full details for obvious reasons in this climate.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

#174

Post by shadowgovt »

coherentpony wrote: post #42
mjevans wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"None of the Above" (see Bruster's Millions (Movie)) really needs to be an option...

It likely will never be an option. You could consider spoiling your ballot instead? I have no idea if spoilt ballots are counted in America, though.

Those rules are established by the states, but in general, they are not. A spoiled ballot is equivalent to no vote.

The states do track undercount votes, But they don't mean anything in terms of the law that decides representation.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

#175

Post by ty6853 »

chillfox wrote: post #169
redler wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

…of the 63% who bothered themselves to vote.

In a democracy anyone wo doesn't vote should be considered to have voted for the winner as they were equally OK with any outcome.

In most states the electoral college representatives are not meaningfully bound to the vote as popularly voted. It is more of a cast for a suggestion, and they have on many occasions voted a different way in the college which is the real vote for president.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

#176

Post by lynndotpy »

klipt wrote: post #135
lynndotpy wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

> the people have no power now There's always the midterms. Politicians shouldn't get too complacent if their party screws up.

For sure. What I meant to articulate was that the admin is the only one it makes sense to point to. Saying "the electorate is stupid!" has no utility other than catharsis, though.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

#177

Post by aaron695 »

llamaimperative wrote: post #4

This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

[dead]

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

#178

Post by zzzeek »

avs733 wrote: post #6
llamaimperative wrote: post #4

This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

[flagged]

[flagged]

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

#179

Post by metadat »

Is there public reporting for actions taken by the current American Presidential Presidency?

It would be useful and highly informative to be able to visit a single page to see daily/quarterly/bi-annual/annual diffs of which efforts habe received signoff.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

#180

Post by odyssey7 »

netman21 wrote: post #48

Largest in recorded history is a bit of hyperbole. In the 1800s something like 80% of all Americans had the TB bacillus and of those that came down with TB a huge percentage died.

That’s pretty much what I was looking for in clicking on the article, by what logic or rationale they made that statement.
Post reply on HN