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Re: Master the Art of the Product Manager 'No'

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Post by DrScientist » Mon, Feb 03, 2025, 10:38 AM UTC

caminante wrote: post #169

DrScientist wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you add those numbers - which are guess work - then the US is still ahead per capita - rather 5x more than China - simply ~2.5x. So you are trying to deflect again - and I notice you haven't address the key point - the existence of legalized enforced labour in the US. If you dislike what China is doing then you should also be worried about what's happening in the US.

> If you add those numbers - which are guess work Guess work? This is coming from your own source, which undermines your point! How are you adding a. not available pre-trial detention and other forms of detention b. and "more than" a million Uighur Muslims? If you can't even provide credible information, then how does one even "deflect" it?

Still avoiding the key point that the US has 2.5x more people per capita incarcerated than even China with all it's political prisoners - and the US legally can force these people to work against their will.

Still not pausing to think?

Re: Master the Art of the Product Manager 'No'

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Post by caminante » Mon, Feb 03, 2025, 5:54 PM UTC

DrScientist wrote: post #171

caminante wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you add those numbers - which are guess work Guess work? This is coming from your own source, which undermines your point! How are you adding a. not available pre-trial detention and other forms of detention b. and "more than" a million Uighur Muslims? If you can't even provide credible information, then how does one even "deflect" it?

Still avoiding the key point that the US has 2.5x more people per capita incarcerated than even China with all it's political prisoners - and the US legally can force these people to work against their will. Still not pausing to think?

> Still avoiding the key point...

...which your own source undermines. I can't defend your own arguments for you without quality figures.

Re: Master the Art of the Product Manager 'No'

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Post by DrScientist » Tue, Feb 04, 2025, 10:36 AM UTC

caminante wrote: post #172

DrScientist wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still avoiding the key point that the US has 2.5x more people per capita incarcerated than even China with all it's political prisoners - and the US legally can force these people to work against their will. Still not pausing to think?

> Still avoiding the key point... ...which your own source undermines. I can't defend your own arguments for you without quality figures.

You threw shades at China for incarnating too many of it's own people, and being a key greenhouse gas emitter - both are true - I'm just pointing out that for both of those areas - the US beats China around 2:1 on a per capita basis if you look at the numbers.

The US incarceration numbers in particular are extraordinary - about 1 in 7 of the worlds prison population is in the US. I'd be interested in your opinion of why that is.