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Re: They see your photos

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

makeitdouble wrote: post #112
vishnumohandas wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, one of the folks working on the said photo service here. Ente has reasonably good search[1] powered by on-device machine learning[2]. [1]: https://ente.io/blog/machine-learning [2]: https://ente.io/ml

Thanks for the clarification. My family library is around 1Tb, the weakest device is an iPhone SE, and the most used access is through a web browser. Does on-device machine learning (provided you're syncing inter-device) work in that scenario ?

If I can interrupt..

Wow, 1TB of photos? This is just astonishing to me. What is the use of so many images? As an ex semi-pro photographer, one of the things I realized is that what makes photographs special to people, even family photographs, is the rarity of them.

So I just cannot understand taking and holding on to this many images. I would find just managing the images would take away time and money from my family.

Re: They see your photos

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

vishnumohandas wrote: post #95
IshKebab wrote: post #21

This is just an ad for their photo service. Which presumably has terrible search features, if it doesn't use AI to analyse them. That's one of the best features in Google Photos!

Hey, one of the folks working on the said photo service here. Ente has reasonably good search[1] powered by on-device machine learning[2]. [1]: https://ente.io/blog/machine-learning [2]: https://ente.io/ml

Thanks. I would gladly take away the "convenience of AI search" for the privacy that your service provides.

I used Ente once, and it was great, but I am poor, so I just store my images locally now. Not that your service is expensive or not worth it because I think it is.

Re: They see your photos

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Post by lexicality »

dievskiy wrote: post #165

I uploaded a photo of myself and this tool identified my ethnicity as Caucasian, which according to DNA tests is not correct. Also it was not able to recognize the brand of a cap I was wearing even though it should be obvious to a human. But it gave an interesting/useful description of the stones near me.

please do not expect the automatic phrenology machine to correctly identify races or ethnicities

Re: They see your photos

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Post by yakshaving_jgt »

A vibrant red Ducati SuperSport motorcycle takes center stage in the foreground, parked against a backdrop of a modern, light beige building. The building's architectural design features tall, slender vertical panels, creating a clean and contemporary aesthetic. In the background, the city's subtle hum hints at the urban environment, a scene of quiet sophistication and stylish urbanity. The sleek lines of the motorcycle contrast beautifully with the building's minimalist design.

The man, appearing to be in his late 20s to early 30s, exudes an air of refined confidence. His attire - a crisp white shirt, a grey waistcoat, and dark trousers - suggests a lifestyle of success and a keen eye for detail. He appears to be of Caucasian descent, his calm demeanor suggesting a moment of quiet contemplation rather than hurried activity. He is meticulously adjusting his helmet, exhibiting meticulous care in preparation. He looks to be in a good mood. The photo appears to have been taken with a professional DSLR camera in the daytime.

The subtle sheen on the motorcycle's paint job hints at a high-quality finish, reflecting the care and attention to detail apparent in both the rider's attire and the choice of machine. The watch on his wrist seems expensive, reflecting his status. The overall composition is balanced and well-lit, likely the result of careful planning and execution. This is not just a man riding a bike, it is a carefully crafted image of a stylish moment in time.

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"He looks to be in a good mood"?!

I'm never in a good mood!

Re: They see your photos

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Post by skhr0680 »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #171
makeitdouble wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the clarification. My family library is around 1Tb, the weakest device is an iPhone SE, and the most used access is through a web browser. Does on-device machine learning (provided you're syncing inter-device) work in that scenario ?

If I can interrupt.. Wow, 1TB of photos? This is just astonishing to me. What is the use of so many images? As an ex semi-pro photographer, one of the things I realized is that what makes photographs special to people, even family photographs, is the rarity of them. So I just cannot understand taking and holding on to this many images. I would find just managing the images would take away time and money from my famil…

You have a to take 1TB of images to be able to take 1GB of images, or something like that (am a semi-retired pro photographer myself).

Re: They see your photos

#177

Post by lolc »

alwa wrote: post #85
panarky wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Google Photos doesn't sell your photos, videos, or personal information to anyone and we don't use your photos and videos for advertising." https://safety.google/photos/

That phrasing raises my weasel-word hackles… first of all, it’s unclear what it would mean to “use your photos and videos for advertising.” That sounds to me like reprinting your photos to advertise something—which nobody accused them of doing. Perhaps more importantly, it only mentions the photos and videos themselves in relation to the advertising. Analyzing the photos (as per the demo in TFA) isn’t “advertising,”…

Weasely indeed. They must list what they do, not what they don't.

Re: They see your photos

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Post by jakjak123 »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #172
vishnumohandas wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, one of the folks working on the said photo service here. Ente has reasonably good search[1] powered by on-device machine learning[2]. [1]: https://ente.io/blog/machine-learning [2]: https://ente.io/ml

Thanks. I would gladly take away the "convenience of AI search" for the privacy that your service provides. I used Ente once, and it was great, but I am poor, so I just store my images locally now. Not that your service is expensive or not worth it because I think it is.

I work on a similar product, and honestly the AI parts dont really matter wrt privacy. Its uninteresting. The EXIF information is way more private and useful, but exif data is also what makes the product usable. If you strip exif, you might as well chuck all your photos in a single folder and call it a day. We also dont sell your data to anyone and we dont run analysis on your data

Re: They see your photos

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Post by jakjak123 »

IshKebab wrote: post #150
phoronixrly wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Terrible search without AI is a bit of a stretch. Also Google does not have a monopoly on object/face recognition in photos. There are self-hosted solutions that readily provide you with that without feeding a faceless AI with your photos while boiling the ocean.

> Terrible search without AI is a bit of a stretch. How so? I was looking for a photo of a grave I took some years ago. In Google photos I just searched for "grave" and if found 2 photos, including the one I wanted. Without AI I would have to search all my photos. Maybe I could narrow it down by date and location but it would take a lot longer.

I have 100s of grave photos. Browsing by location would be way simpler

Re: They see your photos

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Post by makeitdouble »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #171
makeitdouble wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the clarification. My family library is around 1Tb, the weakest device is an iPhone SE, and the most used access is through a web browser. Does on-device machine learning (provided you're syncing inter-device) work in that scenario ?

If I can interrupt.. Wow, 1TB of photos? This is just astonishing to me. What is the use of so many images? As an ex semi-pro photographer, one of the things I realized is that what makes photographs special to people, even family photographs, is the rarity of them. So I just cannot understand taking and holding on to this many images. I would find just managing the images would take away time and money from my famil…

A combination of taking photos for just any purpose (from memos to remember posters, events, or even store prices, to notes) for 2 decades now, enough interest in photography to have played with raw for while and still keep a bunch of them for my favorites, to our kid happening, and a lot of traveling around, which meant additional deluges of pictures.

Google Photos makes it a no-brainer to manage, which largely contributed to the size inflation (which is also why searching and indexing have become critical to us)

PS: I declared bankruptcy on photo management a long time ago. Reducing my library to a decent size is totally possible but would take months of sifting through near duplicates.

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