> Not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors. Yikes. Makes me wonder if this is market-dependent. I mean, do you expect "Emergency manual door release" to be a line item in Tesla's configurator? Didn't think so.
Four dead in fire as Tesla doors fail to open after crash
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Re: Four dead in fire as Tesla doors fail to open after crash
#172Just calling out the poor way this (and many) articles write about car accidents. I’m not a Tesla fan at all but blaming Tesla for the crash is incorrect. (It is correct to blame them for the way the door locks work though and therefore can be blamed for the excess injuries/deaths that result from the design decision.) From the article: > Four people were killed in a fire after a Tesla Model Y lost control and hit a…
>It is correct to blame them for the way the door locks work though and therefore can be blamed for the excess injuries/deaths that result from the design decision. This is what is being discussed here: that four people burned to death because they were unable to exit the vehicle.
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting quote from that piece: > The study's authors make clear that the results do not indicate Tesla vehicles are inherently unsafe or have design flaws. In fact, Tesla vehicles are loaded with safety technology; the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) named the 2024 Model Y as a Top Safety Pick+ award winner, for example. Many of the other cars that ranked highly on the list have also been given high…
I am going to look at the data, not at the subjective reinterpretation or subjective rating.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Tesla Has Highest Fatal Accident Rate of All Auto Brands: Study" (2024) https://autos.yahoo.com/tesla-highest-fatal-accident-rate-16...
Interesting quote from that piece: > The study's authors make clear that the results do not indicate Tesla vehicles are inherently unsafe or have design flaws. In fact, Tesla vehicles are loaded with safety technology; the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) named the 2024 Model Y as a Top Safety Pick+ award winner, for example. Many of the other cars that ranked highly on the list have also been given high…
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#175Re: Four dead in fire as Tesla doors fail to open after crash
#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebanker/2023/12/18/tesla-ha...
Isn’t it missing the death aspect ?
Re: Four dead in fire as Tesla doors fail to open after crash
#177My Chevrolet truck while having an actual door latch, doesn’t open the doors if they’re locked. You have to pull twice. Is that an electronic counter (likely) or mechanical? If the latter, no big deal, if the former it’s even worse than the Tesla - at least my MY has a separate mechanical over ride.
Re: Four dead in fire as Tesla doors fail to open after crash
#178> Not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors. Yikes. Makes me wonder if this is market-dependent. I mean, do you expect "Emergency manual door release" to be a line item in Tesla's configurator? Didn't think so.
This is US law. You can't have a child usable manual emergency release on the doors where you might have child lock enabled.
Then again, there should be a manual release on the outside too...
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
They use frameless windows, so the electronic release slightly lowers them to avoid them scraping the door frame.
There were plenty of older frameless doors where the door itself opens mechanically and the window lowers slightly. A lot of the older subarus for example. What's special about Tesla (or any of the other newer cars with full electrical door opening mechanisms) that makes this not an option?
Re: Four dead in fire as Tesla doors fail to open after crash
#180I’ll leave a thought that isn’t a Tesla criticism (because the others are good): everybody should carry a lifehammer in their car. If not for saving your own life, it might come in handy for saving somebody else’s. https://www.amazon.com/Lifehammer-Brand-Safety-Hammer-Nether... Don’t buy the cheap Chinese knockoffs.
https://www.lifehammerproducts.com/app/uploads/2024/06/20240... Lifehammers don't work on laminated glass, like your front windshield (that would be bad, as it would mean a rock chip would shatter your window). But more and more manufactures are putting in laminated side windows in their cars both for comfort (noise) and rollover protection, so Lifehammers don't work there either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptaI…