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Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

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Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

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Perhaps one idea is to let people choose what they want to protect. This way people wanting to support it can have their mission.

You already can, they have torrents for everything.

Their torrents suck and IME don’t update to changes in the archive.

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

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The Library of Congress should be archiving the Internet and it should have the budget required to do so.

This is in line with its mission as the "Library of Congress". Being able to have an accurate record of what was on the Internet at a specific point in time would be helpful when discussing legislation or potential regulation involving the internet.

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

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This is literally torrents. Just give up

The problem with torrents is they have a bad reputation since people use it to steal and redistribute other people’s content without their consent.

Torrents have a bad reputation due to malicious executables, I have never met someone who genuinely saw piracy as stealing, only as dangerous. In fact, stealing as a definition cannot cover digital piracy, as stealing is to take something away, and to take is to possess something physically. The correct term is copying, because you are duplicating files. And that’s not even getting into the cultural protection piracy affords in today’s DRM and license-filled world.

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

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archive.org to name one

That's debatable. Most of their torrents are for things under copyright, though any other decentralized archive would have the same problem.

That’s a copyright problem. 99% of things made in the last 100 years fall under copyright.

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

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The problem with torrents is they have a bad reputation since people use it to steal and redistribute other people’s content without their consent.

The problem with file transfer is they have a bad reputation since people use it to [insert illegal or immoral activity here]. Then rename it from "torrent" to something else.

I'm not sure what the argumentative line is here. But file uploading and downloading needs to have accountability for hosting, which p2p obscures.

The bad reputation is inherent to the tech, not a random quirk.

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

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The Library of Congress should be archiving the Internet and it should have the budget required to do so. This is in line with its mission as the "Library of Congress". Being able to have an accurate record of what was on the Internet at a specific point in time would be helpful when discussing legislation or potential regulation involving the internet.

The Library of Congress does currently archive limited collections of the internet[0]. They have a blog post[1] breaking down the effort, currently it's 8 full time staff with a team of part time members. According to Wikipedia[2], it's built on Heritrix and Wayback which are both developed by the Internet Archive (blog post also mentions "Wayback software"). Current archives are available at: http://webarchive.loc.gov/

[0] https://www.loc.gov/programs/web-archiving/about-this-progra...

[1] https://blogs.loc.gov/thesignal/2023/08/the-web-archiving-te...

[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Web_archiving_initia...

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

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Is there a reason to blame the victim, rather than the attackers? I’m asking seriously - did IA do shitty things that make them a worthy cause for politically/ideologically motivated hacking?

I imagine they're referring to the fact that the leadership showed extremely bad judgement in deciding to pick a battle with the major publishing companies that everyone knew they would lose before it even began [0]. I don't think that justifies blaming the victim here, and from what I can see the attacker doesn't seem to be motivated by anything other than funsies, but I absolutely lost a lot of faith in their leade…

> there's too much for us to lose at this point

Feeling entitled?

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

#178

We need archives built on decentralized storage. Don't get me wrong, I really like and support the work Internet Archive is doing, but preserving history is too important to entrust it solely to singular entities, which means singular points of failure.

This has really shown that the be true. I am stuck in a situation right now where I have some lost media I want to upload but they have been down for over a week. I plan to create a torrent in the meantime but that means relying on my personal network connection for the vast majority of downloads up front. I looked into CloudFlare R2, not terrible but not free either. I was looking into using R2 as a web seed for the…

Why not subscribe to a seedbox? They’re about $5/2TB/mo. It protects your IP, you can buy for only the month, and since seedboxes are hosted in DMCA-resistant data centers you can download riskier torrents lightning fast, meaning you’re not just spending money for others, you can get something out of it too.

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

#179

Does anyone know who is targeting the Internet Archive, and why? I get the impression the attacks are too sophisticated for it to just be vandal punks.

With the amount of comments calling for a leadership change my tinfoilhat theory is that this is a concerted effort to get a leadership change.

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

#180

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IPFS has shown that the protocol is fundamentally broken at the level of growth they want to achieve and it is already extremely slow as it is. It often takes several minutes to locate a single file.

Several minutes sounds more than fine for this purpose ? Especially if it's about having an Internet Archive backup.

I think the point is that it's already slow at the current amount of data, let alone when you stuff dozens more PB into it
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