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US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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Re: US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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I'm astonished at how long Musk has been able to keep his autonomous driving con going. He has been lying about it to inflate Tesla shares for 10 years now.

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I tried it. It drives worse than a teenager.

There is absolutely no way this can safely drive a car without supervision.

Re: US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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I'm astonished at how long Musk has been able to keep his autonomous driving con going. He has been lying about it to inflate Tesla shares for 10 years now.

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Musk believes Tesla without FSD is "worth basically zero": https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-worth-basica...

Musk is now moving the FSD work to xAI, taking what supposedly makes the public company Tesla valuable and placing it into his private ownership: https://www.wsj.com/tech/tesla-xai-partnership-elon-musk-30e...

Seems like a good way to privatize shareholder capital.

Re: US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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Automate the transfer yards, shipping docks, and trucking terminals. Make movement of cargo across these limited use areas entirely automated and as smooth as butter. Queue drivers up and have their loads automatically placed up front so they can drop and hook in a few minutes and get back on the road. I honestly think that's the _easier_ problem to solve by at least two orders of magnitude.

Did you miss the news about the recent strike by the very people you are suggesting to eliminate? This automation was one of the points of contention. Solving the problem might not be as easy as you suggest as long as their are powerful unions involved

This automation is inevitable. The ports are a choke point created by unnatural monopoly and a labor union is the incorrect solution. Particularly because their labor actions have massive collateral damage to other labor interests.

I believe that if trucking were properly unionized the port unions would be crushed. They're not that powerful they've just outlived this particular modernization the longest out of their former contemporaries.

Re: US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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Automate the transfer yards, shipping docks, and trucking terminals. Make movement of cargo across these limited use areas entirely automated and as smooth as butter. Queue drivers up and have their loads automatically placed up front so they can drop and hook in a few minutes and get back on the road. I honestly think that's the _easier_ problem to solve by at least two orders of magnitude.

There are a bunch of companies working on that. So far off the top of my head I know of: * Outrider: https://www.outrider.ai/ * Cyngn: https://www.cyngn.com/ * Fernride: https://www.fernride.com/ Any ideas what other ones are out there?

Promising. I'm actually more familiar with the actual transportation and logistics side of the operation and strictly within the USA. I haven't seen anything new put into serious operation out here yet but I'll definitely be watching for them.

Re: US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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Seriously scaling nuclear would involve batteries. Nuclear has issues being cost effective at 80+% capacity factors. When you start talking sub 40% capacity factors the cost per kWh spirals. The full cost of operating a multiple nuclear reactor for just 5 hours per day just costs more than a power plant at 80% capacity factor charging batteries.

> Seriously scaling nuclear would involve batteries. Nuclear has issues being cost effective at 80+% capacity factors. I assume you mean that sub 80% capacity nuclear has issues being cost effective (which I agree is true). You could pair the baseload nuclear with renewables during peak times and reduce battery dependency for scaling and maintaining higher utilization.

I meant even if you’re operating nuclear as baseload power looking forward the market rate for electricity looks rough without significant subsidies.

Daytime you’re facing solar head to head which is already dropping wholesale rates. Off peak is mostly users seeking cheap electricity so demand at 2AM is going to fall if power ends up cheaper at noon. Which means nuclear needs to make most of its money from the duck curve price peaks. But batteries are driving down peak prices.

Actually cheap nuclear would make this far easier, but there’s no obvious silver bullet.

Re: US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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"Tesla says on its website its FSD software in on-road vehicles requires active driver supervision and does not make vehicles autonomous." Despite it being called "Full Self-Driving." Tesla should be sued out of existence.

I believe it's called "Full Self Driving (Supervised)"

Re: US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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"Tesla says on its website its FSD software in on-road vehicles requires active driver supervision and does not make vehicles autonomous." Despite it being called "Full Self-Driving." Tesla should be sued out of existence.

Our non-Tesla has steering assist. In my 500 miles of driving before I found the buried setting that let me completely disable it, the active safety systems never made it more than 10-20 miles without attempting to actively steer the car left-of-center or into another vehicle, even when it was "turned off" via the steering wheel controls. When it was turned on according to the dashboard UI, things were even worse. It…

If what you say is true, name the car model and file a report with the NHTSA.

Re: US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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"Tesla says on its website its FSD software in on-road vehicles requires active driver supervision and does not make vehicles autonomous." Despite it being called "Full Self-Driving." Tesla should be sued out of existence.

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Every year Musk personally flies enough in his private jet to undo the emissions savings of over 100,000 EVs...

Remember that every time you get in your Tesla that you're just a carbon offset for a spoiled billionaire.

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Every year Musk personally flies enough in his private jet to undo the emissions savings of over 100,000 EVs... Remember that every time you get in your Tesla that you're just a carbon offset for a spoiled billionaire.

Hmmmm average car uses 489 gallons a year. Large private jet uses 500 gallons an hour. There are 9125 hours in a year.

So if Elon lives in a jet that flys 24/7 you're only very wrong. Since that's obviously not the case you're colossally and completely wrong.

Remember that the next time you try to make an argument that Tesla is not an incredible force for decarbonization.

Re: US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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Magic isn’t real. No one should be confused that the eraser isn’t magic. Fully self driving cars are real. Just not made by Tesla.

What's the verdict on X-Ray Specs?

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