I hear a Muni bus stop nearby, and a lot of voices at 3AM, so I am guessing it's near bars, maybe Mission street. Maybe a pole near enough to an apartment fire escape to ziptie a solar panel. I wonder if the timestamps are accurate enough for me to ride my bike down mission blasting a song, and check strava for where I was at that timestamp, then spot the spotter. Just for fun of course, not to post or dox.
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#172This is very funny
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#173This kind of project has made me realize that somewhere along the way, I quit thinking of tech as a way to build anything fun. I need to rekindle that goofball spirit.
The embedded world awaits you:
https://microengineer.eu/2018/05/01/diy-night-clock-projecto...
Weather Station using LilyGo T-Display S3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VntDY9Mg7T0
https://github.com/goat-hill/bitclock
https://www.hackster.io/lmarzen/esp32-e-paper-weather-displa...
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
It has not been disproven. A simple Google search "is my phone listening to me" provides a resounding yes. These things need to hear your prompt at the very least, which entails (in many cases, if not most) listening at all times. Security researchers DO look at this and they, along with everyone else, just shrug because you technically DID give consent when you accepted the thousand line policy you didn't read.
Hot word detection to activate an assistant occurs locally on your device for the purpose of activating said assistant. That is a far cry from “Pretty sure Apple and Google already do this, just to all phones, in all homes, and not just for music, but your entire life!” which suggests that both Apple and Google are deploying a dragnet uploading a 24/7 recording to their servers for nefarious purposes. That is just si…
You and I can go back and forth on how the other is wrong by providing various internet links. I'll start:
"Mobile devices, the researchers conclude, listen to conversations through microphones and create personalized ads based on what the person wants or has done." [1]
"This passive listening ensures the virtual assistants are ready to help you with a task when needed. However, depending on the developer, voice tech apps may also use your conversation data to recommend ads and content. For instance, Google uses Assistant conversation data to personalize ad and content recommendations. Others, like Apple’s Siri, claim not to use conversation data to build marketing profiles or curate ads." [2]
But this exercise will actually produce less fruitful results because it's possible to prove anything via the online "research" nowadays. So let's try a different tack- thinking for ourselves.
FAANG are extremely notorious brokers of data. Everything about you and your browsing behavior is collected. I hope we can agree on this. Then why on earth would your conclusion be "they don't broker or process our audio data"? You'll have to have something better than it would consume battery life or would leave an identifiable trail of bytes, both of which could be mitigated by some clever programming.
Much better to have the hypothesis (hence "pretty sure") that they do, and then scrutinize. Until something definitive comes out that they absolutely do not, it's much more solid ground than a conclusion that you can simply trust these large corporations.
[1] https://dobetter.esade.edu/en/phone-listening-personalized-a... [2] https://us.norton.com/blog/how-to/is-my-phone-listening-to-m....
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#175This is really cool. Imagine a map of this across a city, being able to see what different areas tend to listen to. I imagine you'd find some surprising and not-so-surprising things.
Then you'd get someone taking the trouble to correlate music and times, to capture someone moving across the city on the map. Then you'd get profiling to potentially pick out who in particular moved across the city and the exact time of path of their movement. While this is a nice idea on a local scale, when scaled up it has horrendous privacy implications.
You would still need a way to map the music to the person listening to it.
Apple and Google could do this if you use their music services, but they already know where you are.
I suppose if I have very unique taste in music and someone else knew about it, they could track me, but this is easily foiled by wearing headphones.
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#176Nice 2 know thx
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#1772 Live crew @ 9:03A most likely because they were mentioned on NPR this morning
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#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
It involves a massive increase in housing prices, primarily brought about by artificial supply restrictions, that results in unintentional displacement. The reason the Mission is still variegated is rent control, along with various forms of affordable housing, housesharing, master tenant slumlords, SROs, extended family arrangements, etc. It's a pretty unique and amazing place really.
Yeah I'm sure handshake politics goes a long way in these neighborhoods often to the detriment of the unsuspecting, unconnected and un-special-interest-group attached renters and owners. [1] Protesters Gather at Google Lawyer’s Apartments https://missionlocal.org/2014/04/protesters-gather-at-google...
Ellis evictions suck particularly hard because they can happen out of the blue for any building, even if you chose one suited for long tenancies. I don't know what percentage results in protests, but it's quite a few. Some of the contested ones fail on technical grounds before they get to the protest stage [1].
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#179This is a fantastically fun little project
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#180The Mission is a variegated place. It's been undergoing gentrification for 4 decades but it never seems to get there - so much so that you could say that that's become its "thing." The exact location where the phone is placed makes a huge difference. Going from Valencia to Shotwell to the BART plazas to the Latino bars and back to the hills your soundtrack would change quite a few times.
The amount of gentrification in the Mission varies a lot based on where you go.
I volunteer on 24th st. weekly, something I've been doing since 2019. The crowd at the volunteering is mostly immigrants. I am white, native English speaker but I speak decent Spanish.
It's mind boggling to me sometimes how the two communities exist in nearly the same space but don't often overlap. I remember one time I went into a restaurant and they engaged with me in Spanish right off the bat, we never switched to English, I got a table to dine-in and they waited on me and it felt pretty much like dining at a restaurant like in travels I've had in central America... A few months later I brought a friend to the same place and I ended up getting a 100% gringo restaurant experience.
Another place down the street and the cashier is like some very pale upper midwest looking hipstery guy who looks "whiter than me", and it felt like a totally different world, one that didn't overlap at all with description above.