Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047

Post by dehrmann » Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 12:35 AM UTC

Lonestar1440 wrote: post #81

This is no way to run a state. The Democrat-dominated legislature passes everything that comes before it (and rejects anything that the GOP touches, in committee) and then the Governor needs to veto the looniest 20% of them to keep us from falling into total chaos. This AI bill was far from the worst one. "Vote out the legislators!" but for who... the Republican party? And we don't even get a choice on the general ba…

Post by llamaimperative » Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 12:40 AM UTC

gdiamos wrote: post #161

llamaimperative wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, there are two thresholds and BOTH must be met. One of those is $100MM in training costs. The other is measured in FLOPs but is already larger than GPT-4, so the “think of the small guys!” argument doesn’t make much sense.

Cost as a perf metric is meaningless and the history of computer benchmarks has repeatedly proven this point. There is a reason why we report time (speedup) in spec instead of $$ The price you pay depends on who you are and who is giving it to you.

Post by anigbrowl » Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 12:45 AM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #167

Lonestar1440 wrote: post #81

This is no way to run a state. The Democrat-dominated legislature passes everything that comes before it (and rejects anything that the GOP touches, in committee) and then the Governor needs to veto the looniest 20% of them to keep us from falling into total chaos. This AI bill was far from the worst one. "Vote out the legislators!" but for who... the Republican party? And we don't even get a choice on the general ba…

The subtle rebranding of Democratic party to democrat party is a pretty strong tell for highly partisan perspective. How does California compare with similarly large Republican-dominated states? Anecdotally, I’ve seen a lot of really bad legislation originating from any legislature that has no meaningful opposition.

Post by dredmorbius » Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 12:51 AM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #175

rootusrootus wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The subtle rebranding of Democratic party to democrat party is a pretty strong tell for highly partisan perspective. How does California compare with similarly large Republican-dominated states? Anecdotally, I’ve seen a lot of really bad legislation originating from any legislature that has no meaningful opposition.

It's such a long-running thing that it's hard to gauge whether it's deliberate or just loose usage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)

Post by anigbrowl » Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 12:53 AM UTC

handfuloflight wrote: post #72

SonOfLilit wrote: post #55

I wondered if the article was over-dramatizing what risks were covered by the bill, so I read the text: (g) (1) “Critical harm” means any of the following harms caused or materially enabled by a covered model or covered model derivative: (A) The creation or use of a chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear weapon in a manner that results in mass casualties. (B) Mass casualties or at least five hundred million d…

Does Newsom believe that an AI model can do this damage autonomously or does he understand it must be wielded and overseen by humans to do so? In that case, how much of an enabler is an AI to meet the destructive ends, when, if the humans can use AI to conduct the damage, they can surely do it without the AI as well. The potential for destruction exists either way but is the concern that AI makes this more accessible…