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Lazarus Group laundered $200M from 25 crypto hacks to fiat

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Post by churchill »

jb1991 wrote: post #168
churchill wrote: post #160

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Americans keep saying this and it makes me laugh every time, because you didn't learn anything from Vietnam. Just like in Vietnam, the stated goal was to replace the government - in this case, to remove the Taliban - that's why you created the Afghan National Army and their flimsy democracy. All told, the US has spent $8 trillion and several thousand young men on the GWOT. Once the US pulled out, the Taliban strolled…

> and immigrants flooding Europe You are blaming the US for that?

Yes, for destabilizing Libya and Syria. Those millions of Syrian immigrants that suddenly started flooding Europe had been living contently in their homeland. What changed starting in 2014? Gaddafi was a major force in stemming illegal immigration through the Sahara. What changed in Libya in 2011?

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Post by jnordwick »

seydor wrote: post #127
a_dabbler wrote: post #86

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DNS != The internet. You can still use the internet without access to the DNS root servers

You could also run the internet on smoke signals but nobody does it

smoke signals is a non-standard extension. however over avian carrier has its own rfc and is entirely legit:

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2549.html

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Post by jnordwick »

nprateem wrote: post #149
tempodox wrote: post #136

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I'm not sure drone pilots would cooperate. They are accustomed to live targets, after all.

Just need to add it as a new mission in GTA6 and there'll be no problem in 3 years time.

Ender's Game IRL

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Post by gosub100 »

mattmaroon wrote: post #94
w-ll wrote: post #25

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You think they are doing this from NK ip blocks/asn? Their physical links are more or less enemy of enemy with US, so they have no incentive to block. Its impossible to keep them off the internet.

Oh I’m not imagine anyone helping us. Im wondering why we aren’t cutting undersea cables or drone bombing land based ones. All the “international sovereignty” responses are humorous to anyone whose paid attention to the last twenty years of the American military.

It's probably of higher intelligence value to let them connect and intercept everything than it is to cut them off and not know what's going on. If you look at their border with China, it's only tens of meters from fairly populated areas, so setting up high bandwidth microwave links wouldn't be hard. Also bombing a sovereign nation is an act of war and comes with consequences.

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Post by mattmaroon »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #123
mattmaroon wrote: post #94

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Oh I’m not imagine anyone helping us. Im wondering why we aren’t cutting undersea cables or drone bombing land based ones. All the “international sovereignty” responses are humorous to anyone whose paid attention to the last twenty years of the American military.

> drone bombing land based ones How do you imagine that a drone will be able to find and damage an underground cable? This is not Afghanistan, a drone will not live long past China’s/Russia’s air defences.

I imagine pretty easily. They likely don’t have to find it, nothing gets dug in North Korea without US watching it via satellite. Chinas air defenses likely don’t exist in North Korea.

I have no doubt the US has plans to cut them (and probably anyone else you can imagine) off in the event of war.

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Post by mattmaroon »

icameron wrote: post #146
mattmaroon wrote: post #23

Serious question, if the United States decided to unilaterally cut North Korea off from the Internet, how hard would that be to do? Could we just knock out a few cables? North Korea pretty much only uses the Internet for scams Or to make money in violation of sanctions. They certainly don’t allow their citizens to use it for anything else, and they don’t allow their citizens to leave the country because they would ne…

I think their main connection comes through china, but if that was cut off they could still use star links.

If you mean SpaceX’s Starlink they obviously can’t. Elon clearly controls who uses it where.

If you are just using the term generically and mean other satellite connections, maybe, but limiting them to satellite internet only where we couldn’t take out a dish would certainly be crippling to the crimes I’m referencing!

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Post by mattmaroon »

woodruffw wrote: post #78
mattmaroon wrote: post #23

Serious question, if the United States decided to unilaterally cut North Korea off from the Internet, how hard would that be to do? Could we just knock out a few cables? North Korea pretty much only uses the Internet for scams Or to make money in violation of sanctions. They certainly don’t allow their citizens to use it for anything else, and they don’t allow their citizens to leave the country because they would ne…

Taking you seriously: I’m pretty sure NK has non-oceanic interconnects with both China and Russia. So unless your plan involves attacking within the internationally recognized borders of either and living with the consequences, the answer is “not easy.”

I assume the US is willing to do this because we do it frequently, though not with China or Russia. I’m not sure about the DPRK, and was asking more of a technical question than a political one. Like, how many cables would we need to cut and how exposed are they? I’m aware they’re a nuclear power (ish) and the politics aren’t trivial.

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Post by mattmaroon »

lucasRW wrote: post #141
mattmaroon wrote: post #23

Serious question, if the United States decided to unilaterally cut North Korea off from the Internet, how hard would that be to do? Could we just knock out a few cables? North Korea pretty much only uses the Internet for scams Or to make money in violation of sanctions. They certainly don’t allow their citizens to use it for anything else, and they don’t allow their citizens to leave the country because they would ne…

They already partially operate from China. They would just do that more. They could even have their own connection to China and connect to the Internet from there. It's going to be a wack-a-mole thing that they easily win.

I wasn’t assuming it to be a strategy that was permanently feasible.

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Post by tazu »

churchill wrote: post #128
tazu wrote: post #121

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The American way is creating problems and selling solutions.

They're not really selling solutions if it still costs them at the end. For the most part, US foreign policy is a net negative for America's pockets and many of their "allies."

There is no cost, overall it all raises US GDP. Military lives are not considered.

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Post by factormeta »

a_dabbler wrote: post #86
gorgoiler wrote: post #73

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Out of interest I looked up who controls the DNS root servers: Europe (2): RIPE and Netnod AB. RIPE is Europe’s RIR, run as a conference by European ISPs. Netnod is a Swedish ISP. Asia (1): Project WIDE, part of the Tokyo Institute of Technology. US (9): Verisign, Cogent, NASA, US Department of Defense, US Army, the University of Maryland, ISC (as in the Bind9 people), ICANN itself, and the University of Southern Cal…

DNS != The internet. You can still use the internet without access to the DNS root servers

just edit /etc/hosts or run your own bind, and point dns to 127.0.0.1, no DNS root server needed!
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