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Post by tehnub »

stavros wrote: post #120
rty32 wrote: post #105

> “Powered by the faster, more efficient A18 Pro chip and built for Apple Intelligence, iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are the most advanced iPhone models we’ve ever made,” said Greg Joswiak, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing. Thanks Greg, that's very helpful information.

Isn't "the most advanced iPhone ever made" a meme by now?

The phrase was used—infamously, in some circles—by Activision to describe the 2022 Call of Duty release (Modern Warfare II) https://www.gamespot.com/articles/modern-warfare-2-is-most-a...

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Post by em500 »

nabaraz wrote: post #48

I remember people lining up outside apple stores on the pre-order day. What has happened now? Have we seen the peak of smartphones until something new comes along and spur a new super-cycle?

Well I still remember people lining up outside of computer stores to buy Windows 95. Some people line up about pretty random things.

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Post by matwood »

pistolpeteDK wrote: post #20

Interesting to see how they're marketing increasingly minor improvements as major breakthroughs. 16 Pro: Better camera, more zoom, dedicated camera button… isn’t that it? WiFi 7, faster ray tracing, USB-C/USB 3? Hard to imagine many people really need that. Have we witnessed peak Apple? Apple Watch: minimal updates. AirPods Max: new color. AirPods: some minor tweaks.

For the phone we've settled on a current form factor of a slab of aluminum and glass. All changes are at the margins. A little thinner, a little lighter, a little better X.

Until some other form factor takes off, this is where we are.

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Post by 4dm1r4lg3n3r4l »

saurik wrote: post #97
paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

Do people have to "upgrade" constantly? Shouldn't the iPhone get at least a little bit better every year, even if no one "upgrades"? I often use my devices for years until they break in some way, and then I get a new one... is it really so wrong that the 2024 model is only better in ways you don't care about from the 2023 model?

Exactly. Them releasing a new model every year with small, incremental updates is not for people to upgrade from the latest model (although it is obvious Apple tries to frame the newer models as large upgrades, they haven’t been that for the past 5 or so years), but rather for people who have been wanting to upgrade for a while from their 3-4-5 year old iPhones, and whenever they do they get the latest and greatest. Would the new models feel bigger upgrades if Apple only released one every 2-3 year? Sure. Would that be better for the average consumer looking to upgrade from whatever iPhone they have? Not sure. Incremental updates are nice IMO, stop caring about them if your iPhone is less than 3 year old…

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Post by readyplayernull »

ericwood wrote: post #139
rty32 wrote: post #105

> “Powered by the faster, more efficient A18 Pro chip and built for Apple Intelligence, iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are the most advanced iPhone models we’ve ever made,” said Greg Joswiak, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing. Thanks Greg, that's very helpful information.

I've always wondered about the "most advanced ____ we've ever made" phrase, it seems like almost like a silly tongue in cheek inside joke at this point. Does it date back to Jobs? They've used that exact turn of phrase for every product iteration as long as I can remember but I can't find any info on its origin. Maybe I'm hallucinating this?

"AI for the rest of us."

https://www.apple.com/apple-intelligence/

We don't deserve so much advance.

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Post by Xenoamorphous »

paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

For better or worse the current big thing is AI. I wouldn’t expect any big leap in hardware anytime soon, other than perhaps running local AI models locally.

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

iteratethis wrote: post #132
rty32 wrote: post #105

> “Powered by the faster, more efficient A18 Pro chip and built for Apple Intelligence, iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are the most advanced iPhone models we’ve ever made,” said Greg Joswiak, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing. Thanks Greg, that's very helpful information.

We've manufactured this from a blend of grade 11 graphite collected from an asteroid and dried oyster tears which you will hide using a $5 cover from Alie Express.

People make jokes but we now carry these thousand dollar devices that provide access to everything in our lives.

They should be covered in a durable and easily replaceable cover.

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Post by janandonly »

alkonaut wrote: post #65
minimaxir wrote: post #51

The Pro variant is unusually poorly differentiated from the base model this cycle: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ The 13 Pro had ProMotion, 14 Pro had Dynamic Island and Always On display, the 15 Pro had USB-C and the Action Button, the 16 Pro...has maybe slightly faster AI? 4k120fps video? USB-C w/ USB 3? Not things most people would care about. ProMotion/Always On is still limited to the Pro models which is…

The 5x (vs 2x) optical zoom will also convince a few to go for the Pro. Isn’t the price difference smaller than previous models too?

The previous model 15 pro already has 3x, so it’s a jump from 3x to 5x. Not enough for me to upgrade already, but a good feature if you like photography or videography.

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Post by nox101 »

thiht wrote: post #94
paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

> Better battery life That’s the only thing from your list that people actually care about and they did improve battery life, there was a whole segment about it. The rest? No one cares. Do you even use an iPhone? You sound like me before I got an iPhone: - I thought the notch would be annoying, I don’t even notice it anymore, it’s never been an issue in actual use - I was convinced TouchID was better than FaceID but…

> - I thought the notch would be annoying, I don’t even notice it anymore, it’s never been an issue in actual use

I have several apps the notch covers. Arguably that's the app's fault for not upgrading ? Or is it Apple's? Maybe Apple should let apps opt into the notch. For apps that don't opt in they'd get a blank bar at the top. That would at least not have broken so many apps.

> - I was convinced TouchID was better than FaceID but I completely changed my mind. FaceID is just more reliable and convenient, especially if you have sweaty palms

Sucks with face masks.

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