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How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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Just look at African or South American countries by GDP and see which ones are at the top of the list

You are aware that all South and Central American countries were colonized by Western Powers right?

Obviously he has no clue, and thinks all the (largely southern-)European-looking Spanish and Portuguese-speaking people there somehow descended from Aztecs and Incas.

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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How do all these people immigrate to the US? Is it all family-based? I work in technological field with many more opportunities in the US and have researched how to move there but it seems almost impossible. I know an American who applied for jobs in my country, got an offer and was over within a few months but that doesn't work the other way round.

You fly over and overstay your visa (indefinitely.) Neglecting any discussion of the legal ramifications, that is largely how it happens.

And then you have no legal standing, so you get paid far below market depressing everyone's wages, and in any dispute you get deported. The best thing for workers would be for there to be no such thing as an "illegal alien" - but xenophobia/racism wins instead.

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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At the end of the day the Earth's resources are very much finite. We simply can't have indefinite growth, so it doesn't make sense to use it as a metric.

> finite Sure, everything is finite, but 8 billion is too little. Earth can fit 8 trillion and more, all we need is more science.

Maybe, but what's the point ? If science improves shouldn't we aim for less population?

Less people can keep up with more production. Less people means less impact on the environment. Less people means more nature. At least personally I rather have less people on the planet at any given moment.

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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At the end of the day the Earth's resources are very much finite. We simply can't have indefinite growth, so it doesn't make sense to use it as a metric.

> finite Sure, everything is finite, but 8 billion is too little. Earth can fit 8 trillion and more, all we need is more science.

science is very much limited by human ability to not regress to violence when limited when h^n meets the l*r there be carnage without modifications .

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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https://www.bmj.com/content/381/bmj.p1234

5 years is truly a big kill. looks like its a reaction to 99% of them refusing to send money back home and invest in Nigeria, preferring to buy-US and -Europe.

Not sure if you are deliberately misunderstanding at this point, but the problem is obviously not where the doctors spend their money, but the fact that they are not practicing medicine in Nigeria – as Nigeria might reasonably have hoped them to do once they completed their training.

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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At the end of the day the Earth's resources are very much finite. We simply can't have indefinite growth, so it doesn't make sense to use it as a metric.

> finite Sure, everything is finite, but 8 billion is too little. Earth can fit 8 trillion and more, all we need is more science.

That's a very optimistic way to think. But every new technology brings its set of failure and danger.

For instance energy: petrol -> pollution, nuclear energy-> tchernobil, danger currently in Ukraine with the war, ...

Food : fertilizer -> water pollution and eutrophication

Housing: more home -> less free soil to retain water, insane flooding.

And so on, and so on.

Anyway by the time we reach 8 trillion, a nuclear war surely would have already started and wiped us all

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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> finite Sure, everything is finite, but 8 billion is too little. Earth can fit 8 trillion and more, all we need is more science.

science is very much limited by human ability to not regress to violence when limited when h^n meets the l*r there be carnage without modifications .

all we need is more science.. and religion

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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> finite Sure, everything is finite, but 8 billion is too little. Earth can fit 8 trillion and more, all we need is more science.

Maybe, but what's the point ? If science improves shouldn't we aim for less population? Less people can keep up with more production. Less people means less impact on the environment. Less people means more nature. At least personally I rather have less people on the planet at any given moment.

why production? environmental? nature? Who cares about these things more than caring about humans [and happiness thereof]?

Sure I want less people and more earth to myself too, but if everyone [overall] wants as many free kids as they can afford, how on earth are you going to end up with having less people?

A girl's maximum happiness is directly correlated with the number of children she has. regardless of how much free capital and brainwashing received

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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> finite Sure, everything is finite, but 8 billion is too little. Earth can fit 8 trillion and more, all we need is more science.

That's a very optimistic way to think. But every new technology brings its set of failure and danger. For instance energy: petrol -> pollution, nuclear energy-> tchernobil, danger currently in Ukraine with the war, ... Food : fertilizer -> water pollution and eutrophication Housing: more home -> less free soil to retain water, insane flooding. And so on, and so on. Anyway by the time we reach 8 trillion, a nuclear wa…

> set of failure and danger

Then what you need is moar science. 10x, 100x, 999999

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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Enforcing ubi ensures that there's a reasonable bottom to how low you can bid on labour. Enforcing minimum wage however is problematic because it is an artificial level. It simply further creates two classes of people, the hired and the unhired.

Enforcing an understanfing of economics, motivation and thinking beyond a first order effect usually ensures people understand why ubi os a bad idea....

copying Scandi is not a bad idea
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