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Re: Zed AI

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Post by ziml77 »

acedTrex wrote: post #156
nsonha wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did Google make you less productive when looking up about code? If it did not then I dont see how looking up with AI can be worse.

> If it did not then I dont see how looking up with AI can be worse Looking up with AI is worse because its WRONG a lot more. Random rabbit holes, misdirection. Stuff that SOUNDS right but is not. It takes a lot of time and energy to discern the wheat from the chaff. Sure you can find misleading or outdated blogposts or forum discussions with a google search but the information is far more grounded in correctness the…

This is my experience with trying to use AI for coding tasks too. I've had back-and-forths with AI that involve me trying to get it to fix things to get a final working function, but since it doesn't actually understand the code, it fails to implement the fixes correctly.

Meanwhile, the stuff you find through a traditional web search tends to either be from a blog post where someone is posting actual working code snippets, or from StackOverflow where the code tends to be untested initially but then gets comments, votes, and updates over time that help boost confidence in the code. It's far more reliable to do a web search.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by jay_kyburz »

p4bl0 wrote: post #140
modernerd wrote: post #32

I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. But that seems really tough to find, for some reason. Zed is so close, but I’d much rather see a focus on the “programmable” part and let the AI and collaboration features emerge later out of rich extensibility (i.e. as plugins, perhaps even paid plugins) than have them built-in behind a sign-in and unknown future pricing model.

> I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. What would that be for each OS? Linux: Kate (at least if using KDE; which one would it be for GTK / Gnome?) macOS: TextMate? Windows: Notepad++?

I use Kate on Windows as well.

I really love the Documents Tree plugin and could never go back to old style tabs.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #133
modernerd wrote: post #32

I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. But that seems really tough to find, for some reason. Zed is so close, but I’d much rather see a focus on the “programmable” part and let the AI and collaboration features emerge later out of rich extensibility (i.e. as plugins, perhaps even paid plugins) than have them built-in behind a sign-in and unknown future pricing model.

I don't know of a single modern desktop application that is deploying front-ends simultaneously in WinUI 3, AppKit, and GTK.

Not Firefox?

Re: Zed AI

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Post by sunaookami »

p4bl0 wrote: post #140
modernerd wrote: post #32

I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. But that seems really tough to find, for some reason. Zed is so close, but I’d much rather see a focus on the “programmable” part and let the AI and collaboration features emerge later out of rich extensibility (i.e. as plugins, perhaps even paid plugins) than have them built-in behind a sign-in and unknown future pricing model.

> I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. What would that be for each OS? Linux: Kate (at least if using KDE; which one would it be for GTK / Gnome?) macOS: TextMate? Windows: Notepad++?

Can also recommend CotEditor for macOS as a Notepad++ replacement. Don't know how "programmable" it is or what even falls under that label.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by rileymichael »

raincole wrote: post #16
janice1999 wrote: post #3

JetBrains ships a local, offline AI auto-complete in PyCharm. Sure it's limited, but it shows it can be done. It's a pity other companies aren't trying the same, especially this one that boasts about millisecond editing times. Edit: JetBrains, not IntelliJ. Auto-complete details - https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2024/04/04/full-line-code-co...

I tried it with C#. It's not comparable to Copilot. If I've never used Copilot I might be slightly impressed.

You're right, it's not comparable. Jetbrain's code completion actually integrates with the IDE to guarantee the suggested code isn't entirely a hallucination -- for example it checks for unresolved references so that its suggestions don't reference non-existent variables/methods.

I've disabled Copilot as it produces garbage way too often. I found myself "pausing" to wait for the suggestion that I'd ultimately ignore because it was completely invalid. I've left Jetbrain's code completion on though because it's basically just a mildly "smarter" autocomplete that I'll occasionally use / I don't find myself relying on.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by sunaookami »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #115

>Claude 3.5 Sonnet's new Fast Edit Mode, optimized for text editing. This upcoming mode achieves unprecedented speed in transforming existing text, enabling near-instantaneous code refactoring and document editing at scale I wonder what this is. Have they finetuned a version which is good at producing diffs rather than replacing an entire file at once? In benchmarks sonnet 3.5 is better than most models when it comes…

It seems like it just "echoes" back the unchanged contents? https://x.com/zeddotdev/status/1825967818329731104

Re: Zed AI

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Post by sunaookami »

maeil wrote: post #55

Let me be very direct - what's the strength over the competition, e.g. Cody? The fact that it's its own text editor? I'm seeing the assistant emphasized but that just looks like Cody to me.

Agreed and Cody has recently upped their free tier and Sonnet 3.5 can be used for free for completions and up to 200 chat messages per month. Plus you can use it in VS Code and IntelliJ - no need to learn a new text editor.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by m-s-y »

p4bl0 wrote: post #140
modernerd wrote: post #32

I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. But that seems really tough to find, for some reason. Zed is so close, but I’d much rather see a focus on the “programmable” part and let the AI and collaboration features emerge later out of rich extensibility (i.e. as plugins, perhaps even paid plugins) than have them built-in behind a sign-in and unknown future pricing model.

> I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. What would that be for each OS? Linux: Kate (at least if using KDE; which one would it be for GTK / Gnome?) macOS: TextMate? Windows: Notepad++?

macOS: BBEdit now and forever.
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