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Re: Medieval

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There's sort of two ways to look at the Teenage Engineering products. The first is as a tool to produce music, and the second is as a kind of interactive sculpture. The design and production of these things is so good they are almost like art themselves. Are they useful? Not really, you could achieve the same thing with a VST — hardware isn't required for this — but to think in this way is to miss the point. Are scul…

You are comparing dessign with art.

Where do you draw the distinction between the two? Where do you fit things like pop art into this continuum, or objets d'art?

Re: Medieval

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I know many musicians who love using Teenage Engineerings products for making music, performing live etc. However, I do think there is a case to be made for falling into the trap of being more interested in the gear than the thing you're meant to do with the gear. At the very least, Teenage Engineering hardware is generally very well designed, high quality and built to last. At least this product has some creative sp…

> However, I do think there is a case to be made for falling into the trap of being more interested in the gear than the thing you're meant to do with the gear.

that is literally the intention behind all modern music hardware (eurorack especially) i think. i've been a producer for nearly 20 years and i've still never seen anybody make genuinely good music with any of these things. not even once.

these 30-40 year old "enthusiast" types getting 17 views on their 28 minute "generative ambient jam #236" videos are basically an unlimited cash cow.

Re: Medieval

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Don’t miss the lovingly crafted manual: https://teenage.engineering/guides/ep-1320 Looks great blown up on a 4K monitor due to extensive use of SVG.

It, unfortunately, looks immune to zoom in a browser, for some reason.

Which is really obnoxious because I can barely read the text underneath it.

Re: Medieval

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I know many musicians who love using Teenage Engineerings products for making music, performing live etc. However, I do think there is a case to be made for falling into the trap of being more interested in the gear than the thing you're meant to do with the gear. At the very least, Teenage Engineering hardware is generally very well designed, high quality and built to last. At least this product has some creative sp…

> However, I do think there is a case to be made for falling into the trap of being more interested in the gear than the thing you're meant to do with the gear. that is literally the intention behind all modern music hardware (eurorack especially) i think. i've been a producer for nearly 20 years and i've still never seen anybody make genuinely good music with any of these things. not even once. these 30-40 year old…

I'm a 30-40 year old with absolutely no interest in making music, but I want every single thing which crosses my news feed from Teenage Engineering. So yeah, that checks out.

Re: Medieval

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However, I do think there is a case to be made for falling into the trap of being more interested in the gear than the thing you're meant to do with the gear. Have you ever met a guitarist[0], or a golfer? I play guitar, and as a teenager I spent _years_ playing a cheap encore guitar plugged into a no-name 15w amp imaginable with a zoom 505 [1]. I practiced for hours upon and hours and sounded awful. Now as an adul…

I played for years, on a cheap, short-scale, Univox bass, and getting a used Rick[0] (don’t judge the hair. It was in style, back then) made a huge difference. I no longer play, but did get get pretty good. In that case, the tool made the difference (and a buttload of daily practice. I felt I needed to earn the right to play that thing). But I think everyone knows some rich bastard, that has a handmade bespoke axe, a…

I agree 100%. Getting a Gibson was also a game changer for me. Today there is cheaper stuff that is also good quality (but you gotta dig), but back in the day you needed the kind of gear used by pro musicians to actually go the extra mile.

And it's a good observation about bespoke guitars: I feel like the problem is people trying to go beyond that, with the illusion that "even more expensive" will be even better. Then they start buying things that are hella expensive but don't give much more (due to diminishing returns, or sometimes they actually suck, like bad handmade instruments), or doing things like collecting 20, 30, 40 overdrive pedals just to find the "perfect one".

Re: Medieval

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I found it really funny. It's obviously probably useless for actual medieval music[0] but I think it can find it's users in bardcore or dungeon synth circles.

You can definitely recreate this just by collecting appropriate VSTs and sample libraries, even probably by just loading some "medieval samples" to some groovebox.

But if I got this second hand on cheap price I would definitely make some fun with it even if it has somewhat cryptic labels.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6_8ZEhmaGE

Re: Medieval

#179

I know many musicians who love using Teenage Engineerings products for making music, performing live etc. However, I do think there is a case to be made for falling into the trap of being more interested in the gear than the thing you're meant to do with the gear. At the very least, Teenage Engineering hardware is generally very well designed, high quality and built to last. At least this product has some creative sp…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurorack#/media/File%3AKeith... How the hell do you replicate your sounds between performances, recordings, etc. This must be the musical equivalent of people sending eachother zip files with source code instead of using git, lol. EDIT: don't get me wrong, not dissing the approach! It looks glorious and I wish I could play with one once..!

There was recently a post and discussion on this very topic here on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40954679

Seems complicated, indeed.

Re: Medieval

#180

I know many musicians who love using Teenage Engineerings products for making music, performing live etc. However, I do think there is a case to be made for falling into the trap of being more interested in the gear than the thing you're meant to do with the gear. At the very least, Teenage Engineering hardware is generally very well designed, high quality and built to last. At least this product has some creative sp…

> However, I do think there is a case to be made for falling into the trap of being more interested in the gear than the thing you're meant to do with the gear. that is literally the intention behind all modern music hardware (eurorack especially) i think. i've been a producer for nearly 20 years and i've still never seen anybody make genuinely good music with any of these things. not even once. these 30-40 year old…

People make some good tracks with the OP-1.

I think dipplo (a big edm artist) used the OP-1 in his live sets for a while.

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