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You bought an Alexa..... For the kids dorm room...? Wanna share with us your thought process?

Of the precious little Alexa can do reliably announcing that dinner is ready without having to yell is quite useful.

How big is your house? Just looking to understand under what circumstances what you said might be a good idea. Where I live it would be silly.

Re: Alexa is in millions of households and Amazon is losing billions

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I still cannot believe Amazon convinced people to install 1984 surveillance in their homes, much less pay for it, for whatever trivial conveniences the stupid thing offers. It's not Amazon's fault but it's just strange to me how sideways our culture is that it's considered normal to let a corporation have unfettered access to your private space and pay them for being there. I get the tradeoff with smartphones...at le…

What a weird take. What can a phone do for me, I can tap my finger a few times to send a message over telegram.

No you can't.

Re: Alexa is in millions of households and Amazon is losing billions

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We have several Alexa devices. We use them all the time and for a wide variety of purposes. By any rational, actual customer-connected metric, they are a wild success in this and similar homes. This is an example of Amazon not actually letting the smartest people into the room. We do vast amounts of our shopping via Amazon, but that's through the app and website even when we manage the shopping lists/etc via Alexa. W…

They maybe should count the times when you add something to your shopping list, via Alexa, then later purchase it through another method. If you didn't have the voice box, you may forget that you needed that thing

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To build on the Costco analogy: for any given product category they typically only have three specific options: good, better, best. I could tell Costco bot that I need AA batteries and it would ask me if I prefer Duracell, Kirkland brand, or cheapest. I trust that either of them will be plenty good, so I would say cheapest. Amazon has a vastly different experience with thousands of indistinguishable Chinese knockoffs…

To add to your point, one can't even pick out a brand-name product directly from Amazon's website and be sure of getting the real thing.

I ordered automated cat feeders and had bought the “honey guaridan [sic]” which is a Chinese knockoff when I thought I was buying “HoneyGuardian” brand automated cat feeders.

This is blatant behavior on the part of sellers and Amazon turns a blind-eye to it.

I didn’t learn my lesson either.

I ordered seat covers, and what came was a misspelled Chinese knockoff brand instead of the name brand I thought I was ordering.

I can’t trust purchases made on Amazon and I have an eye for detail. They got me twice. I don’t know how non-detail oriented folks keep from it happening.

Re: Alexa is in millions of households and Amazon is losing billions

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Throwaway here but I used to work in Alexa org at Amazon and was amazed by how big the org was (thousands and thousands of people) considering it doesn't seem to be a big revenue generator I remember constantly hearing about projects other teams were working on thinking "why would anyone use that" or "how would that ever make money" Just trying to shoehorn alexa into as many domains as possible It was like empire bui…

> Just trying to shoehorn alexa into as many domains as possible

It happened outside of Alexa too. Every team with a public facing product was directed (it seemed) to come up with some sort of Alexa integration. It was usually dreamed up and either a) never prioritized or b) half assed because nobody (devs, PMs, etc.) actually thought it made any sense.

Re: Alexa is in millions of households and Amazon is losing billions

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The core issue is that Amazon envisioned Alexa as a product that would help it increase sales. Smart home features were always an afterthought. How convenient would it be if people could shout "Alexa order me Tide Pods" from wherever they were in their home and the order got magically processed? That demo definitely got applause from a boardroom full of execs. The problem is that consumers don't behave like that. Thi…

I would consider using Alexa to buy things if it understood what I wanted. It rarely does. Asking it to list subscriptions, for example doesn’t work. Trying to get it to set up anything beyond a simple timer is a hit-and-miss affair.

Re: Alexa is in millions of households and Amazon is losing billions

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The core issue is that Amazon envisioned Alexa as a product that would help it increase sales. Smart home features were always an afterthought. How convenient would it be if people could shout "Alexa order me Tide Pods" from wherever they were in their home and the order got magically processed? That demo definitely got applause from a boardroom full of execs. The problem is that consumers don't behave like that. Thi…

I would consider using Alexa to buy things if it understood what I wanted. It rarely does. Asking it to list subscriptions, for example doesn’t work. Trying to get it to set up anything beyond a simple timer is a hit-and-miss affair.

The fact that they could be finally fixing this, and then are putting it behind a paywall is ironic, because if it finally works properly, people could actually start using it for buying stuff.

Re: Alexa is in millions of households and Amazon is losing billions

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> I always want to see a page with the product details and price before I click "buy". Reducing the number of clicks is not going to make me change my decision. This is compounded by the multi-headed monster that large orgs like theirs have no choice but to become. If customers could trust that every day essentials had a relatively stable price and availability pattern like they trust from their local grocery store (…

This was exactly my problem with the dash buttons, and with Amazon's recurring order system. And I'm not certain, but I believe that sellers game this system- you can see certain things that make sense to order on a recurring schedule have unconscionable prices. Once you have a certain threshold of recurring orders, why not increase the price 10x? Especially because Amazon puts so many dark patterns in the way of a u…

I just reordered something I order fairly frequently today. The price is pretty predictable but, yes, I like to just double-check it hasn't doubled in price. Not a big deal to order every few months and confirm it's still what I want to order at the right price as opposed to just putting it on an out of sight, out of mind subscription.

Re: Alexa is in millions of households and Amazon is losing billions

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We have several Alexa devices. We use them all the time and for a wide variety of purposes. By any rational, actual customer-connected metric, they are a wild success in this and similar homes. This is an example of Amazon not actually letting the smartest people into the room. We do vast amounts of our shopping via Amazon, but that's through the app and website even when we manage the shopping lists/etc via Alexa. W…

What do you use yours for? Mine’s little more than a fancy voice-activated light switch. Fully agree on the point about not shopping through Alexa. Basic questions are misinterpreted in sometimes hilarious ways.

I have enough Echoes to cover my whole place within speaking distance and they serve as fancy voice-activated light switches and also timers, radios/music/podcast players (via Spotify) and calculators/measurement converters. They also provide local weather alerts and let me know when an Amazon package has arrived, both of which are nice.

But whenever it tries to sell me anything, I get annoyed

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