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Psilocybin desynchronizes the human brain

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Re: Psilocybin desynchronizes the human brain

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Post by muzani »

SoftTalker wrote: post #150
muzani wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I think data on this would be hard to get. A tangential anecdote... I took a Pfizer COVID booster vaccine and saw my heart rate go up to resting above 100 on my calorie tracker watch. I talked with my doctor about this. He said he stayed away from the COVID boosters because they weren't a good balance of risk vs safety. I asked him whether high resting heart rates were a side effect. He said, no, there's no dat…

> I took a Pfizer COVID booster vaccine and saw my heart rate go up to resting above 100 Temporarily or permanently?

Temporary, but it wasn't clear at the time

Re: Psilocybin desynchronizes the human brain

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Post by jojobas »

TechDebtDevin wrote: post #17

PSA: My buddy shot himself in the head while we were on shrooms in our twenties. He thought he meant God, took a shower picked up a gun and shot himself in the head. While I've had trips since then and do get benefits from those experiences. People without experience should be careful, especially if you have a history of mental illness. He did have a history to some degree but not overtly.

I have a better idea: not even once.

Re: Psilocybin desynchronizes the human brain

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Post by anothernewdude »

greentxt wrote: post #101
mike_ivanov wrote: post #96

It's interesting that brain hypersynchronicity is a known source of epileptic seizures (among other things). This potentially could be a treatment for this specific problem. See e.g. * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S089662731930964X * https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1528-1167.2010.02805.x

Doubtful. Shrooms cause seizures.

Guess what antidepressants cause?

Re: Psilocybin desynchronizes the human brain

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Post by muzani »

tambourine_man wrote: post #159
muzani wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I think data on this would be hard to get. A tangential anecdote... I took a Pfizer COVID booster vaccine and saw my heart rate go up to resting above 100 on my calorie tracker watch. I talked with my doctor about this. He said he stayed away from the COVID boosters because they weren't a good balance of risk vs safety. I asked him whether high resting heart rates were a side effect. He said, no, there's no dat…

That doctor of yours should have their license revoked.

Thankfully in this country, we don't revoke licenses for telling people to submit health data.

Re: Psilocybin desynchronizes the human brain

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Post by dyauspitr »

jojobas wrote: post #172
TechDebtDevin wrote: post #17

PSA: My buddy shot himself in the head while we were on shrooms in our twenties. He thought he meant God, took a shower picked up a gun and shot himself in the head. While I've had trips since then and do get benefits from those experiences. People without experience should be careful, especially if you have a history of mental illness. He did have a history to some degree but not overtly.

I have a better idea: not even once.

I’ll back you up but having done shrooms about a dozen times decades ago, you’re really missing out on a truly out of this world experience.

Re: Psilocybin desynchronizes the human brain

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Post by opello »

im3w1l wrote: post #165
elzbardico wrote: post #133

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In my life I met two people who survived botched suicide attempts without using firearms. When someone decides to do it, they will try, and there are things worse than dying.

> When someone decides to do it, they will try, and there are things worse than dying. Science disagrees. Many attempts are impulsive and a minor hurdle can be enough to stop them.

To have been stopped by a minor hurdle one must necessarily have started. It seems like you mean to disagree with the idea that "there are things worse than dying" and I expect they meant being maimed can be thought of as worse than being successful, due to the long-term personal consequences.

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Post by oceanplexian »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #69
TechDebtDevin wrote: post #17

PSA: My buddy shot himself in the head while we were on shrooms in our twenties. He thought he meant God, took a shower picked up a gun and shot himself in the head. While I've had trips since then and do get benefits from those experiences. People without experience should be careful, especially if you have a history of mental illness. He did have a history to some degree but not overtly.

Part of the lesson of this story is the danger of having a gun in the home at all. He could have been sober and depressed and did the same just as easily thanks to having access to a gun. There's a lot of statistical evidence for how dangerous situations like depression or domestic violence can become once a gun is nearby.

Like the other child comments I don’t agree with the presupposition that guns are an entity that somehow incites people to commit violent (Which is what you are implying).

For example most people have access to cars, statistically much more dangerous than guns, and no one seems to imply that having a car around incites people to violence. People who are mentally ill and dangerous could as easily use any array of common tools or methods to commit acts which are dangerous to themselves and others. That doesn’t make it the tool’s fault.

Re: Psilocybin desynchronizes the human brain

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Post by sambapa »

oceanplexian wrote: post #177
kjkjadksj wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of the lesson of this story is the danger of having a gun in the home at all. He could have been sober and depressed and did the same just as easily thanks to having access to a gun. There's a lot of statistical evidence for how dangerous situations like depression or domestic violence can become once a gun is nearby.

Like the other child comments I don’t agree with the presupposition that guns are an entity that somehow incites people to commit violent (Which is what you are implying). For example most people have access to cars, statistically much more dangerous than guns, and no one seems to imply that having a car around incites people to violence. People who are mentally ill and dangerous could as easily use any array of comm…

Maybe because running over yourself with your own car is a little less convenient than blowing your fscking brain out with a gun.

Re: Psilocybin desynchronizes the human brain

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Post by devwastaken »

TechDebtDevin wrote: post #17

PSA: My buddy shot himself in the head while we were on shrooms in our twenties. He thought he meant God, took a shower picked up a gun and shot himself in the head. While I've had trips since then and do get benefits from those experiences. People without experience should be careful, especially if you have a history of mental illness. He did have a history to some degree but not overtly.

People discover powerful drug -> Powerful drug causes negative reactions in some people -> Drug is banned and knowledge is lost -> People discover powerful drug.

Pharma is responsible for suppressing knowledge and proper medical treatments. They're letting people die so the fear sets their patented drugs in stone. It has worked very well for them.

There is a plethora of information on the net on how to start safely, if at all, and why most people should not use psychedelics at all. Set and setting are just as important as the dosage.

Re: Psilocybin desynchronizes the human brain

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Post by baq »

mistermann wrote: post #132
baq wrote: post #56

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Absolutely not. Feeling "it is just a feeling" is being grounded in reality and affirming your senses and convictions are volatile and shouldn't be trusted. Feeling "I solved the world, everybody listen to me" is... not.

> Feeling "I solved the world, everybody listen to me" is... not. Does this apply to the preceding paragraph in your comment? How about to science, and various other The Way's currently popular bordering on mandatory (if you want to be respected at least) in this era, culture, geographical region?

Science is all about removing feelings, accepting that it isn’t possible to not feel and channel that into constantly doubting.

Feeling doubtful is fundamentally different than feeling enlightened.

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