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Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by shiroiushi »

p51-remorse wrote: post #152
shiroiushi wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slack should add an option to disable reactions for people like this. However, since the sender is expecting their reaction to be seen, Slack should then replace the reaction with a text message matching the reaction: "Ok emoji", "Thumbs up emoji", "Smile face emoji", etc. so that the reaction doesn't just disappear and the intended recipient sees it.

This is the worst possible outcome - now if I’m in a channel with someone who doesn’t like reactions for unarticulated reasons, I am subjected to these notifications and unnecessary clutter? Bollocks.

No, you misunderstand. If you're not the person who hates reactions for unarticulated reasons, you won't have this option enabled, so you'll just see the reactions as emoji like most other people.

The person who hates reactions, OTOH, is going to see all these annoying notifications and unnecessary clutter, because he apparently prefers unnecessary clutter rather than a simple emoji. After all, these people are telling us they want others to type out long, wordy messages just to, for instance, acknowledge a prior message. My proposal here would do just this, but require the sender to do nothing different than before.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by grodriguez100 »

karaterobot wrote: post #76
whyoh wrote: post #65

This kinda reminds me of a feature Windows (Phone) used to have, where it would share your Wi-Fi password with the device's contacts automatically. To opt-out you had to add _optout to the SSID name. https://www.theregister.com/2015/06/30/windows_10_wi_fi_sens... It looks like this feature was removed eventually, but it's just one of those tasteless things that MS does every once in a while.

From that article: > (So if you want to opt out of Google Maps and Wi-Fi Sense at the same time, you must change your SSID of, say, myhouse to myhouse_optout_nomap. Technology is great.) I knew about the Google Maps thing, I didn't know about this. That kind of stuff is so presumptuous and user hostile it's outrageous.

Be thankful that this actually works. It wouldn’t if both Microsoft and Google checked for the magic token at the end of the SSID string :-/

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by ClassyJacket »

verandaguy wrote: post #122
nlawalker wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not opt-in for the owner of the network, who should really have a say in the matter. Why? It’s literally just a shortcut for asking for the password from someone who already has it and then having it read it out loud or texted. If the owner of the network doesn’t want that happening they need to explain that in either case.

It’s a shortcut that deprives the network owner of agency. As the person running the network, should you not have some degree of control over who gets to join your network, be it fully open, fully closed, or anywhere in between?

The guests could already simply tell each other the password

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by airtonix »

xyst wrote: post #142

Apple added the same thing for iMessage/SMS. It worked as expected if the group message was all Apple users. But if you were the unfortunate person outside the ecosystem, you would get spammed with ‘{person} liked “{message}”’. In some cases, people would react to the reaction leading to some ridiculous chains of text.

On second thoughts (looks at Camelot), let's not go there. It's a silly place.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by RedShift1 »

munchler wrote: post #128
RedShift1 wrote: post #89

I haven't seen this type of messages. Where is it coming from?

Microsoft Outlook. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/reactions-in-micr...

Good lord, IMO this has no place in a business environment

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by watwut »

viraptor wrote: post #73
valcargo wrote: post #56

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Using words. Same as here on Hacker News.

Ok. (Followed by 20 other people responding with just "ok", filling the screen with spam)

I genuinely think that in this situation, you should do NOTHING instead of reaction. If the explicit ok is not needed, like on HN, then thumps up are not needed either.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by CalRobert »

maeil wrote: post #158
crimsonnoodle58 wrote: post #126

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Yep. My WiFi has had _optout_nomap ever since it was introduced. People always ask me why and I've never seen another SSID with it included.

Come over to my place and we can possibly be the first people ever to bond over their home wifi SSIDs ;)

I really miss the days when people put time and thought in to their SSIDs instead of using the defaults

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by SpaceNugget »

lostlogin wrote: post #163
maeil wrote: post #158

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Come over to my place and we can possibly be the first people ever to bond over their home wifi SSIDs ;)

My Unifi setup has whitelisted devices. Everything else is completely crippled on the WiFi. I’m happy for how easy it is to do this.

Google maps doesn't need to be able to connect to your wifi in order to use it for location detection. i.e. You still need to add _nomap to the ssid.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by watwut »

viraptor wrote: post #75
JohnFen wrote: post #53

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> by turning them off, you are therefore forcing people who want to communicate with you to adapt to your communication preferences because you have I don't see how. All it means is that I won't see the reactions. That's my loss. I'm not forcing anyone else to do anything differently. If it actually begins to interfere with communications too much, I can turn them back on. > it's somehow unethical or abusive of the u…

> All it means is that I won't see the reactions. That's my loss. I'm not forcing anyone else to do anything differently. "Are we ok doing ...?" (People reacting with :+1:) Now you have to figure out if you're being ignored or people don't have an answer. You ask them again directly, which they may also simply react to. By bothering them again, you are asking them to do things differently for you.

For christ sake, if there is explicit question do not react with reaction only, but use words.

Because, recipient does not know whether you are acknowledging that you read that question or answering it or what. Emoji reactions are ambiguous majority of the time. Which is fine when they are used to add emotions to the discussion, but not fine when you are actually communicating with it.

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