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Firefox 128 enables "privacy-preserving" ad measurements by default

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Re: Firefox 128 enables "privacy-preserving" ad measurements by default

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post #93

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> Web needs to make money I don’t think this is true. No one “needs” to make money. Museums don’t need to make money. OSS doesn’t need to make money. The web has value without making money. But even if it does make money, it doesn’t need to maximize profits at the expense of user privacy and joy.

How do OSS devs support themselves without money?

The same way you can make model trains and not make money.

Re: Firefox 128 enables "privacy-preserving" ad measurements by default

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Use Firefox Nightly on Android and you get access to about:config and with that this switch.

A word of caution: Nightly is not equivalent with Stable. Using a non-stable build, especially one built every day, means there's a substantial risk of bugs and data loss.

I've used it for years and have not had many crashes so there is no real need for 'caution'. I also run Debian Sid on laptops, another 'unstable' system which is remarkably stable despite its moniker. If these were relatively new systems/programs there would be more churn but at this stage of their development the changes made tend to more gradual and less crash-prone.

Re: Firefox 128 enables "privacy-preserving" ad measurements by default

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A word of caution: Nightly is not equivalent with Stable. Using a non-stable build, especially one built every day, means there's a substantial risk of bugs and data loss.

I've used it for years and have not had many crashes so there is no real need for 'caution'. I also run Debian Sid on laptops, another 'unstable' system which is remarkably stable despite its moniker. If these were relatively new systems/programs there would be more churn but at this stage of their development the changes made tend to more gradual and less crash-prone.

Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

There's always risk in running complex untested software.

Re: Firefox 128 enables "privacy-preserving" ad measurements by default

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post #93

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> Web needs to make money I don’t think this is true. No one “needs” to make money. Museums don’t need to make money. OSS doesn’t need to make money. The web has value without making money. But even if it does make money, it doesn’t need to maximize profits at the expense of user privacy and joy.

How do OSS devs support themselves without money?

Usually they are supported by donations, therefore they don't need to sell their user's data or their software.

Re: Firefox 128 enables "privacy-preserving" ad measurements by default

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Related discussion from 2 days ago:

"Firefox added [ad tracking] and has already turned it on without asking you"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40954535 (170 comments)

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Also, there are two options to disable the ad tracking behavior:

1. Use LibreWolf instead — Advantage: This is also a long-term solution :)

2. Follow @thangalin's instructions to disable it in Firefox:

> Step 1. Visit about:config

> Step 2. Set dom.private-attribution.submission.enabled to false

Credit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40955221

Re: Firefox 128 enables "privacy-preserving" ad measurements by default

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ublock is a tiny fraction of users. If it became ubiquitous, online advertising would respond with something more embedded in the content and harder to block out.

> online advertising would respond with something more embedded in the content and harder to block out And less profitable, otherwise they would already be doing that now. In other words: a step in the right direction.

Is it a step in the right direction? What are the consequences of pulling money out of the advertising industry?

Re: Firefox 128 enables "privacy-preserving" ad measurements by default

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Gahh! I'm planning a move from macOS to some Linux-based OS once this laptop dies. I've had 20+ years of using Mail.app and thought that Thunderbird would be the appropriate replacement. But that link, and the comments at https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/thunderbird-should-by-d... ('Given that significant parts of Thunderbirds user interface (addons manager details, welcome page, whats new on updates etc) are ess…

The "served as web pages" is a bit misleading. It just means that the UI layout engine takes HTML or XML, not that information is passed through a web server.

Sure, but the link concerned all telemetry, of which accessing a web page, even just to show what's news, is one.

The overall attitude included comments like 'I would like to see significantly more anonymous telemetry not less', while I want no network connections in my mail reader except that which I specifically initiate.

These are people so acculturated to data collection that they don't understand that some others don't want it.

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