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How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by hollywood_court »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #134
coldtea wrote: post #111

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> Switch to nuts Nut are crazily high in calories though. Walnuts are 650 calories per 100 grams (and 100 grams are not that difficult to eat!). 100 grams of steak are like 270 calories for comparison (less than half!).

Isn’t that the point? Your body needs calories! Nuts are a great way to get filling healthy calories so you don’t go around eating junk. M&M’s are 492 calories per 100g, so slightly less than your figure for walnuts, but I can’t imagine that eating candy is healthier. And similarly, steak has many negative health effects.

What are the many negative health effects of steak?

I eat a ~1lb pan fried strip steak with steamed broccoli for breakfast 7 days per week.

It’s the easiest and most consistent way to help me meet my protein and fiber goals.

My GP does my bloodwork twice per year and the only thing he has ever told me is that I need to take a Vitamin D supplement. But he also said that he tells all of his patients that.

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Post by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #130
01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #125

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I love sugar water. On my new ADHD meds I finally managed to kick soda for a few weeks, but I think I'll limit myself to one can a week on Saturdays because I miss the feeling. It's the only drug I do and all my friends are stoners, so..

Why not just a sugar-free option like Coke Zero?

The sugar-free sweeteners taste odd to me, I haven't found one I like

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Post by jakubmazanec »

duckmysick wrote: post #135
jakubmazanec wrote: post #108

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This is some latest research on this topic: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10363705/

What exactly do you mean by "this topic"? Fruits being bad for you, which is the comment you're replying to? This is the only mention of fruit in the linked paper: > Fructose is a simple sugar that is the primary nutrient in fruit and honey. However, in the western diet, its main source is table sugar (sucrose), which consists of fructose and glucose bound together, and high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), which consists…

Yes, thank you; I was in a hurry and didn't write the best comment with the full context.

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Post by illiac786 »

coldtea wrote: post #110
inSenCite wrote: post #90

Everyone's struggle with addiction is different. I'm glad this person found a good way for them and I'm sure it might help others as well. Don't be discouraged if it doesn't always work for you, maybe you just need to try a different approach.

> Everyone's struggle with addiction is different Not that different, since people still share billions of years of evolutionary mechanisms, and thousands of years of social conditioning. At best there are a few different kinds of struggle with addiction.

Depends on your referential. Within humanity, addiction takes very different form. Compared to mosquitos, our addictions are probably still very similar, yes.

I think I fail to see your point though.

Are you saying people tend to exaggerate how different addictions are, for example to better sell some new addiction overcoming books or courses?

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Post by snvzz »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #140
snvzz wrote: post #127

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>This is like: Exercising willpower is an important life skill. Being able to will be extremely helpful in way too many occasions to count. >Fasting wont take away the cravings It will, actually. Sugar cravings are very different relative to regular hunger, and are really gone for good within 48h. >after a few days you feel very hungry and all you can think about is food, The "all you can think" is just not true. It'…

Willpower, propensity for addiction, susceptibility to sugar, etc. aren't equally distributed. The people you're preaching to have tried all those things. Your advice cashes out into "land better in the distribution like me and then confuse it for a character trait like I do".

>have tried

Apparently not hard enough.

>"land better in the distribution like me..."

This line of thinking you are describing there is classic loser mentality. The successes of others are always because of "luck".

It couldn't possibly be that they put in the hard work when you weren't looking. Of course not.

Entertaining such ideas would lead to looking inwards, and there's only darkness to be found inwards.

This is a problem that outsiders cannot fix. They have to realize the problem themselves, and only then will they be able to move forward.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by snvzz »

nomius10 wrote: post #154
snvzz wrote: post #105

Very long article, for something so simple. Stop eating i.e. fast. The cravings go away within 48h. Done, solved.

As the article stated, sugar consumption was a method of coping (when he felt stressed or overwhelmed). If you consider that the source of that stress is chronic or from something constantly being put away, then that repeated regular use over the course of decades becomes quite a tough pattern to break, since it represents a fundamental element of what keeps you sane. In these cases, the sudden removal is comparable…

It's also about the only option. Got to stop consumption.

So what would you advocate, involuntary commitment perhaps?

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Post by tarsinge »

galangalalgol wrote: post #95
ralferoo wrote: post #52

> When I returned from my trip, my fridge was empty, so I resisted the temptation to buy those products. This has to be my reality. If I buy treats, no matter how good my intentions are to make them last, they just don't survive in the cupboard more than a couple of days. I have to leave my kitchen mostly empty apart from: diet soda, meat, cheese, yoghurt, peanut butter. Everything else is just too addictive and I ke…

I tried this and eventually started binging on higher and higher percent chocolate. Eventually I was sitting at work stuffing a handful of crushed toasted Cocoa nibs into my mouth ... I suppose I did end my craving for sweets though. I can't make hard cheeses last more than a couple days either. Leaving the kitchen empty works pretty well for me. But I'll binge on pretty much anything that is left if the hunger hits…

Big difference is hard cheese is nutrient dense and leave me without hunger for a far longer time than empty calories simple carbs that basically bypasses the body checks. Lot of times when I am hungry my body just wants protein. 1000kcal of sugars can leave me hungry after one hour. I eat ton of 80% chocolate and hard cheese and don't get any weight. On the other hand with simple carbs and white flour based things (pasta, bread, pastries...) I have to consciously limit myself to a few per weeks otherwise kg starts piling on fast again.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by cm2187 »

coldtea wrote: post #136
cm2187 wrote: post #30

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Same thing with intermittent fasting. One deviation and the appetite comes back with a vengeance and you have to restart from scratch the process of getting used to fasting (which is the hard part, the appetite is what makes the caveman go out chase the mammoth, it's a strong force). Experimenting with Mounjaro right now + intermittent fasting. So far so good, but only one week into it. I am hoping to use it as a gua…

If you've IF for a while, you hardly have to "restart from scratch". Except if by "one deviation" you mean a month or more going without IF...

I think you are refering to weight loss. I am refering to the ability to sustain IF (i.e. the stomach to get used to it without raging for food).
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