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Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free

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Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free

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Post by grecy »

threeseed wrote: post #150
kyleyeats wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Julian's not a whistleblower, he's a journalist. Whistleblowers are people within the organization.

He's also not a journalist by traditional definitions i.e. no formal training, no accreditation, no redaction to protect innocent parties, no protection of sources. He's more akin to an activist.

> He's also not a journalist by traditional definitions

The year is 2024 and we've had the internet for a good while now.

I think it's safe to say that "tradition definitions" are long, long dead and we need to get on with what the reality actually is.

Who cares what "journalists" were defined as in 1980.

Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free

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Post by caseyy »

threeseed wrote: post #150
kyleyeats wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Julian's not a whistleblower, he's a journalist. Whistleblowers are people within the organization.

He's also not a journalist by traditional definitions i.e. no formal training, no accreditation, no redaction to protect innocent parties, no protection of sources. He's more akin to an activist.

Hmm, this is the definition — https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/journali...

> a person who writes news stories or articles for a newspaper or magazine or broadcasts them on radio or television

Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free

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Post by dang »

dumdumdumdum wrote: post #168
sackfield wrote: post #109

In an ideal world we would get to do a reverse investigation to understand which government officials were complicit in his very obviously politically motivated detention, action would be taken upon those individuals to ensure accountability, and the system itself would be updated so powerful interests can't abuse the law like this. How far are we from this world?

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Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free

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Post by FireBeyond »

tamimio wrote: post #98

He is a legend and should inspire future whistleblowers. Both his leaks and trials exposed how corrupt the justice system is.

What, by picking and choosing what content to release to push a political agenda?

Like getting leaked data from the DNC and RNC and coordinating with the Trump campaign to time DNC leaks for maximum effect (I have no love for the DNC) while not releasing RNC content sent to you?

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Post by TallTales »

etchalon wrote: post #160
dboreham wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Responsibility has to be pretty defuse, right? You can at least begin with all the presidents in office since he was prosecuted, until N-1 since presumably the Nth just released him.

A lot of Assange supporters are going to feel weird about giving Biden credit for his release, especially since Biden was part of the administration that initially decided to pursue Assange.

Also because he was forced into pleading guilty for doing journalism. A great crime has been committed against Assange and I understand why he would do this. I would never ask him to spend another day in a small Ecuadorian embassy room with no living facilities or in a medieval torture cell in England... He has suffered more for the free people of the world than we have a right to ask for but this is not a just outcome.

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Post by drewcoo »

tamimio wrote: post #98

He is a legend and should inspire future whistleblowers. Both his leaks and trials exposed how corrupt the justice system is.

> should inspire future whistleblowers

I'd think his treatment might dissuade future whistle blowers.

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Post by glenstein »

vilhelm_s wrote: post #70
belorn wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is the same conventional wisdom that held that the Swedish state prosecutor would never break Swedish laws in order to keep a prosecution indefinitely ongoing. Naturally the US had no plan to charge Assange the same day that the Swedish state prosecutor had to drop. Then a higher court actually found the state prosecutor breaking Swedish law, because as a state prosecutor is not legally allowed in Sweden to keep a…

Surely you don't need any conspiracy for the US to charge him at the same time as the Swedish prosecutor drops charges? That can be done unilaterally by the US prosecutor.

The conspiracy is in the coordination of charges to facilitate extradition to the United States. And it turned out there was in fact a sealed indictment in the United States this whole time.

Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free

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Post by colordrops »

threeseed wrote: post #150
kyleyeats wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Julian's not a whistleblower, he's a journalist. Whistleblowers are people within the organization.

He's also not a journalist by traditional definitions i.e. no formal training, no accreditation, no redaction to protect innocent parties, no protection of sources. He's more akin to an activist.

The law doesn't care about "traditional definitions". Anyone in the US can act as a journalist by simply publishing.
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