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Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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> Pointless if it doesnt have cross platform. As mentioned in another news article on the topic: > It also syncs with PCs via the iCloud for Windows app. * https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/10/24175505/apple-password-a... and in the keynote itself: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXeOiIDNNek&t=59m32s

And for those of us without an iPhone?

Then we're not their target demographic.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Here's Apple's big problem: it's not a replacement for so many alternatives because it isn't supported on all platforms. Safari? Not on Windows. Apple Music? This actually has a Windows client. I'm not sure how good it is. But Spotify supports Windows and even Linux. Apple Password Manager? Will this be tied to iCloud? Will I be able to use it on Android? If I no longer have an iPhone will it be a pain to maintain an…

They’re releasing an app for Windows that will solve that piece at least. It’ll sync across both.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#173

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you really enjoy paying each month for access to your passwords? really?

Yeah. I want to pay the people who look after the thing that stores my most precious information. I want them to be overpaid and look after their golden goose. It seems nuts to me that you expect someone to provide you a service for free?

I never said free. Did I? Just because someone is revolting against rent seeking companies vs building a solid product and increasing users this forum likes to denigrate them into being freeloaders. You've got the wrong idea and are running with it in the wrong direction.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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I've been an avid 1Password user for over 10 years, but since they gone full-throttle targeting the enterprise market, I'm getting more and more annoyed. It's increasingly buggy (right now, it thinks I haven't migrated from 1p7 which causes annoying interstitials that I can't close. Over a month and no fix yet.). They killed standalone vaults. Obvious feature requests (e.g archive an entire vault) sit there for years…

I have been fighting switching to the SaaS version. Paying a monthly fee for access to my passwords is highway robbery. I do not want/need any of these other "services" they forced upon me. I have trying Apples keychain, but that migration is slow and a total pain in the ass. And it's not even a good replacement. I'm sure 1Password doesn't care one iota about loosing individual users with attitudes like this. Until t…

1Password has the most reasonable pricing out of just about any SaaS company. $1/user/month if you're on a family plan. $3/month for individuals. And they provide a great service.

Strongly disagree that they're part of the group of SaaS companies trying to price gouge their users.

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The offline device with a plugin usb keyboard that "types" in your username and password is exactly what i've wanted forever. There are some devices people have made and posted online. I made a POC with an old android phone once but never got past that stage. I investigated the bluetooth encryption and it didn't really seem up to the task. You could create a dongle that lived on wifi though that would do the same.

could you post a link or 2 of the DIY devices? very interesting since this kind of device obviously needs a lot of integration into the PWM software ecosystem.

seems like everyone has this idea now if you search google.

https://www.google.com/search?q=password+manager+with+usb+ke...

https://github.com/tejado/Authorizer

https://hackaday.com/2020/02/08/usb-password-keeper-runs-on-...

https://www.amazon.com/OnlyKey-Stealth-Black-Case-Communicat...

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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One of the reasons for bad software products & corporations taking advantage of users is this free loader mindset. What exactly is wrong with paying $10 per year for a well done product?

If it were $10, we might have a conversation. I paid for my full version of 1Pass way back when, and upgraded all the way through to v7. It was a one time fee and used until they broke it. I never said refused to pay for it, but a monthly fee in perpetuity is just ridiculous to me.

I don't use. One pass, I use Bitwarden.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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I have been fighting switching to the SaaS version. Paying a monthly fee for access to my passwords is highway robbery. I do not want/need any of these other "services" they forced upon me. I have trying Apples keychain, but that migration is slow and a total pain in the ass. And it's not even a good replacement. I'm sure 1Password doesn't care one iota about loosing individual users with attitudes like this. Until t…

> Paying a monthly fee for access to my passwords is highway robber It would be. Fortunately, 1Password doesn’t do that [1]. You’re paying for an important piece of software to be maintained. > I'm sure 1Password doesn't care one iota about loosing individual users with attitudes like this Probably not. Emphasis on attitude. [1] https://support.1password.com/frozen-account/

This entire assumption that I'm a freeloader is absolute bullshit. I've bought and paid for my copies of 1Password and have even purchased it for others. You can take that freeloader name calling and shove it right back in the place you found it. I'm quite frankly tired of it.

We can have upgrades and working software that gets updates without monthly fees to do it. I also do not need their cloud and only features. They intentionally removed the local vaults specifically to force you to use their cloud. That was the last straw for me.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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> Pointless if it doesnt have cross platform. As mentioned in another news article on the topic: > It also syncs with PCs via the iCloud for Windows app. * https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/10/24175505/apple-password-a... and in the keynote itself: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXeOiIDNNek&t=59m32s

And for those of us without an iPhone?

Being locked into the eco system is my main reason for avoiding Apple products. Switching from an iPhone to an Android phone was painless for me because I didn't use any of the Apple services (iMessage, iCloud, Passwords). If I had to simultaneously switch from Passwords to Bitwarden would've been time consuming and annoying.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#179
I for one will stay away. What if your Apple account get banned? Then you lose all your passwords?

It's the same reason I don't trust Google with all my picture or documents. At any point in time their algos can flag your account for wrong reasons and that's the end of your digital life.

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