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Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by gaws »

kstrauser wrote: post #3

Not the submitter, but I installed this a couple days ago to replace Bartender. For those not following along at home, the Bartender author just sold it to some sketchy app mill. It’s an app that legitimately requires screen recording permissions to work. I trusted the old author’s reputation. I have zero trust in the own owner. Ice isn’t as good yet. It’s not nearly so configurable. For example, you can either hide…

> you can either hide all icons or none. You can’t decide to show some of them all the time.

This is a non-starter. I hope, with a renewed interest fueled by the Bartender sale and HN, the developers implement this as soon as possible.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by dwich »

For those like myself who used Bartender as a way to get an extra menu bar for their offscreen items on small / notch screens (something Ice doesn't have yet), I'm writing up the alternatives as I try them out: https://procrastopossum.com/bartender-alternatives/

So far I'm just hoping the BetterTouchTool option pans out.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by foxandmouse »

monocularvision wrote: post #155
foxandmouse wrote: post #129

It is just me or has this been happening more and more with mac apps. The unarchiver, Transmition, uTorrent..

Do you mean Transmission the open source BitTorrent app for macOS? What’s the problem with it?

The official website was compromised and tainted .dmg files were uploaded to the site, using an Apple Developer signature to bypass the OS X gatekeeper feature

The tainted packages installed a ransomware application (a variant of Linux.Encoder.1, but recompiled for Mac, known as KeRanger) that encrypts the user's files and attempts to force users to pay.. The developers were not complicit in the hack that affected their software; but I included it because the point I was trying to make was that hackers are aware and targeting apps popular among developers.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by carlosjobim »

bluSCALE4 wrote: post #166
carlosjobim wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saying that somebody has a damaged reputation.

Why do you not acknowledge any of the points made? Selling a business is a big deal and an announcement should be made. Not doing so is at best short sided and ignorant.

Other people are addressing those points better than I would. I think it is out of proportion to denounce and name the individual developer. Why does everything have to turn into a witch hunt? And why do you have to call me ignorant for not thinking like you?

Would any hacker be proud to explain to their grand parents that they got very upset that their icon hiding app was sold?

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by kstrauser »

gaws wrote: post #171
kstrauser wrote: post #3

Not the submitter, but I installed this a couple days ago to replace Bartender. For those not following along at home, the Bartender author just sold it to some sketchy app mill. It’s an app that legitimately requires screen recording permissions to work. I trusted the old author’s reputation. I have zero trust in the own owner. Ice isn’t as good yet. It’s not nearly so configurable. For example, you can either hide…

> you can either hide all icons or none. You can’t decide to show some of them all the time. This is a non-starter. I hope, with a renewed interest fueled by the Bartender sale and HN, the developers implement this as soon as possible.

Looks like I was wrong about that. The README was updated to explain how after I'd started using it.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by EasyMark »

carlosjobim wrote: post #137
latexr wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I trusted the old author’s reputation. I have zero trust in the own owner. As of now, I have zero trust in the old author too. The lack of communication is the fault of both parties. Ben Surtees has caused serious damage to their own reputation. Any new software released under that name will have a hard time gaining trust and traction.

And who are you to slander a named person and publicly question his reputation, for selling his own business that he created to somebody else? Your behaviour is not proportional to what has happened. It is an icon utility.

It was an icon utility that can record your screen

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by callalex »

carlosjobim wrote: post #174
bluSCALE4 wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you not acknowledge any of the points made? Selling a business is a big deal and an announcement should be made. Not doing so is at best short sided and ignorant.

Other people are addressing those points better than I would. I think it is out of proportion to denounce and name the individual developer. Why does everything have to turn into a witch hunt? And why do you have to call me ignorant for not thinking like you? Would any hacker be proud to explain to their grand parents that they got very upset that their icon hiding app was sold?

Nobody called you ignorant and the only personal attack here was made by you.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by carlosjobim »

callalex wrote: post #177
carlosjobim wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other people are addressing those points better than I would. I think it is out of proportion to denounce and name the individual developer. Why does everything have to turn into a witch hunt? And why do you have to call me ignorant for not thinking like you? Would any hacker be proud to explain to their grand parents that they got very upset that their icon hiding app was sold?

Nobody called you ignorant and the only personal attack here was made by you.

I misunderstood your post. But I haven't personally attacked anybody.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by samatman »

philsnow wrote: post #167
samatman wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is entirely a skill issue. I don't mean that dismissively, let me teach you the Mac way to close apps. You hit ⌘-Tab, this brings up a list of every app you have open. Keep the thumb on the ⌘. More tabs go right, ` goes left. For every app you want to close, hit Q. When done, release ⌘. My preferred way to launch an app is ⌘-Space and the first few letters of its name. This can have some frustrating delays of a…

> ` goes left. For every app you want to close, hit Q I didn't know about either of these, thanks. Also apparently, up or down brings up a view of all the windows for that app. A while ago I put together some hammerspoon lua for making cmd-tab go by window instead of by app because that's how my brain works, but it's slower than the native cmd-tab. Are there other similar hidden tricks for Dock.app (which, I presume,…

You can two-finger drag to make the selected app move around, although I rarely do so.

You can also three-finger drag down on the selected app to get Mission Control view for that app, to select a window directly. I do that somewhat more often.

Those are the other ones I know. Discoverability of the various affordances in the macOS interface is terrible, but it stays pretty consistent over the years.

There should be a manual of a couple hundred pages. I miss the days when that was standard.

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