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Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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> Tesla vehicles lack a rain sensor. Here’s how a proper rain sensor works https://youtu.be/TLm7Q92xMjQ?si=Yb-_TBYbPIuPXk_p

Good thing Tesla saves $1 on a few IR LEDs and photoresistors. That $50000 Model 3 is now $49999.

Yep, and if you sell 10 million of them you have saved 10 million dollars.

Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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> This is a result of Tesla’s strategy to rely upon Tesla Vision to replace all sensors – which they’ve successfully used most recently to replace the ultrasonic parking sensors (USS) on their vehicles. Tesla believes that vision is the solution to achieving all self-driving capabilities, and this includes the elimination of extraneous sensors such as USS and radar. Why are they so hell-bent on using nothing but vide…

> successfully I don't know anyone who thinks the vision-based parking "radar" actually works well. Indeed, I've heard of several incidents of people bumping into things.

It’s… ok. Much better since the update. Normal parking sensors aren’t infallible either. My colleague scraped his BMW i4 last week and it has proper sensors.

Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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For anyone curious, Technology Connections has a good video on how traditional automobile rain sensors work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLm7Q92xMjQ

He mentioned that they aren't perfect.

I had a BMW which had an absolute perfect calibration of the sensor. It just WORKED.

Then I got a new windshield and all fell apart. As it was a BMW, I had to go to the dealer and have the rain-sensor re-calibrated.

And then it worked flawless again.

Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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Maybe, or maybe it's like his refusal to allow apps to force everything to be a web app, and Tesla will realize they are better off just having more sensors and more data

I kinda agree with steve jobs on both of those calls. if your "mobile app" is just a wrapper around a web page, I'd rather just have a bookmark shortcut on my homescreen. what's the value add? I don't think either of those is very similar to the wiper thing. one is using the leverage of owning a major OS to force third parties to do something better for the end user in a context where the stakes are pretty low (ie, n…

Tbh I agree because at least with the hindsight we have now, so many apps both desktop and on phones are just wrappers around web browsers anyways.

Back then there was some value add in having access to native APIs but over time we've just added more and more web APIs to bridge that gap.

Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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Elon’s belief that humans doing it with vision is proof it can be done with video

I think that's more of justification and excuse than a legitimate belief.

I know a few people who work/worked there. I don’t agree with it but it is a genuinely held belief

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I think that's more of justification and excuse than a legitimate belief.

I know a few people who work/worked there. I don’t agree with it but it is a genuinely held belief

That's terrifying

Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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For anyone curious, Technology Connections has a good video on how traditional automobile rain sensors work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLm7Q92xMjQ

He mentioned that they aren't perfect. I had a BMW which had an absolute perfect calibration of the sensor. It just WORKED. Then I got a new windshield and all fell apart. As it was a BMW, I had to go to the dealer and have the rain-sensor re-calibrated. And then it worked flawless again.

I had a similar experience with a BMW. The rain sensor in every car after that has been much worse.
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