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Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

#171
That animation with the comparison swipes below "What if you could use all that powerful extra color data and get a cinematic look with one tap?" looks highly misleading. I've never seen original videos as bad as the ones used in the "before"-state. Am I wrong? I'm not into filming, so I might be.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

#172

That animation with the comparison swipes below "What if you could use all that powerful extra color data and get a cinematic look with one tap?" looks highly misleading. I've never seen original videos as bad as the ones used in the "before"-state. Am I wrong? I'm not into filming, so I might be.

As mentioned immediately prior to the comparison/line:

> Out of the box, Apple Log footage looks really flat. It's not meant to look good. It's meant to be edited later.

The before/after is about how you can apply each of those different prebuilt LUTs immediately with a tap, not about comparing how much better edited log looks than unedited log.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

#173

That animation with the comparison swipes below "What if you could use all that powerful extra color data and get a cinematic look with one tap?" looks highly misleading. I've never seen original videos as bad as the ones used in the "before"-state. Am I wrong? I'm not into filming, so I might be.

> Am I wrong? I'm not into filming, so I might be.

Yes, it's because you haven't seen raw log video before. It'll look very washed out when filming in log (and typically when previewing recent shots) but then in post-processing you'll actually tune the colors (called "color grading", in case you wanna seek out more about it).

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

#174
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"one simple principle: make good products and charge money for them." Thank you for the one-time purchase option. It's a win already on today's software world.

I just looked at two pomodoro apps on the app store, one had a one-time purchase fee, the other had a subscription only model. It's a freaking pomodoro app! I can't believe I have to pay for that in the first place (why doesn't the countdown app of Apple not have a widget =.=) but a subscription? People are greedy af.

People are so used to the zero interest rate period of tech that everyone expects the pricing model of VC backed startups that can burn money forever and maybe figure out a business model at some point.

Software costs time and money. People complain that they don't want the same uninspired corporate created junk – and then they balk at paying indie developers a reasonable amount for apps.

So much work goes into this stuff! It's so tempting for indie devs to just take the high paying job, and then congrats – no more unique and interesting apps like this.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

#176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I paid for Halide and almost immediately afterward, they announced a policy of locking new features made after whatever version you had bought unless you bought it a second time. It's the only app I've ever bought whose developer has done that bullshit. I won't make that mistake again.

why would buying an old version entitle you to a new version?

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Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

#177

Cries in Android. Realistically I don't blame em, but it sucks to see IOS get all the cool apps. With emulators coming to iOS I know my next phone will probably be an iPhone

There's MotionCam Pro for android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motioncam

I myself feel the same, with emus on iOS the only missing class of software at this point is like... Blink+V8 instead of WebKit+JSC as a browser choice.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

#178
If you want to say "lets you do color grading", then fine. But claiming/implying this can make "pro video" or stuff that looks like it came out of a cinema camera is absurd. I know they don't say that outright, but it is heavily implied that the only, or major, difference is just color space and grading. And the name is just...laughable.

> On a technical level, why does video shot on an iPhone look different than one shot on a big Hollywood camera?

...and then they launch into color grading and whatnot.

The real answer:

Because the pixel pitch on a cinema digital camera is four times the area of the pixels on an iPhone which allows for much greater light gathering which means lower noise, and the sensor is far less limited by diffraction.

Because the iPhone lens, being so tiny, has almost zero depth of field and that looks like shit.

Because the people operating the camera are very good at cinematography.

...not because of some software.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

#180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I paid for Halide and almost immediately afterward, they announced a policy of locking new features made after whatever version you had bought unless you bought it a second time. It's the only app I've ever bought whose developer has done that bullshit. I won't make that mistake again.

why would buying an old version entitle you to a new version?

For every couple year major versions (with decently advanced notice it's coming and/or a recency allowance) I think it's fair to charge anew but for minor improvements over the lifecycle of a major version I think it's fair to want to buy everything that will come in the major version up front if you're making a one time purchase. Tons of software is this way from Sublime to Windows to ZBrush to an absolute crapload of games. In this model a one time purchase is seen more as an alternative to holding a subscription over the lifetime rather than the intent to forego any future features or enhancements out of interest of the exact current feature set being all you'll ever want. There is also the "in-between model" e.g. IntelliJ where you get the current version + a period of updates and you can either stay with where it ends at that period or pay a smaller amount for more updates.

I'm not sure which group the Halide changes mentioned above fell into but just on the general topic I think it's a fair expectation.

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