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Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by hawk_ »

ikt wrote: post #46

I duno how this isn't getting more views tbh Ecosia and Duckduckgo and Bing are down, there's at least 5% of the search engine market (the non-google part) down at the moment

I know ecosia relies on bing but why does this affect DDG? Do they internally use bing as well?

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by zevv »

radiorental wrote: post #156
mhuffman wrote: post #141

Can't wait to find out what happened here. This seems to be a massive outage. Interesting how fragile things become when so much technology is concentrated into just a few companies.

Genuine question, are distributed systems naturally more resilient? I can see arguments for both sides. Your point and then the hidden failure modes without central observability and ownership. Nothing exists in isolation.

Not distributed per se, but diversity makes a huge difference in resilience.

When everybody is using the exact same tech, the fall out of an incident can be huge because it will affect everybody everywhere at the same time. Superficially it might seem efficient and smart, but the end result is fragility.

Diversity of species is what nature ended up with as the ultimate solution: the individual species do not matter, but life as a whole will be able to flourish. With technology, we're now moving the other way: every single thing gets concentrated into one of the few cloud providers. Resilience decreases, fragility increases.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by darreninthenet »

michael9423 wrote: post #151

So much about DuckDuckGo's claim that Bing is only a part of their search results.

Not defending DDG or anyone here but it depends on the cause of the outage... is it something broken in Azure (for example) that's causing it? As has been pointed out it's still possible to search with Bing (both directly and through DDG with bangs) so it might not be as simple as you're implying.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

throwaway290 wrote: post #139
dzhiurgis wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

which is surprising given how unbearable google has gotten it's a bit like sticking to using windows in 2010

It's not surprising given how much better it is than everything else

lol what? Google or Windows? Got a chuckle out of this either way.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by GRBurst »

yeah seems like at least for many that is the case. I wasn't aware that so many engines are using bing! under the hood. Afaik qwant uses their own thing and that startpage is using google under the hood, but that might have changed
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