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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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There’s a halo around Ilya Sutskever as the Albert Einstein of AI. Are there others on par with his— umm, how would you qualify it—- AI intuition or are we idolizing?

You have used an excellent term: AI intuition. This quality is extremely rare. Einstein probably had a similar kind of intuition in physics, and maybe that's why he was so successful. The ability to see what direction to pursue. Ilya has demonstrated it again and again, first with Alexnet (Hinton said Ilya was the person driving the project, believing in its success when no one else did, while Alex was the main implementer), then with OpenAI when he believed scaling up models is "all we need" to get to AGI, when very few people would agree with that. Today he believes the alignment is very important - perhaps we should listen to him.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Plot twist: Ilya joins xAI next.

This is plausible, Elon is a fantastic recruiter and he recruited Ilya for OpenAI. There are reports of xAI buying enormous numbers of GPUs and Elon's level of control of his companies means that Ilya recklessness isn't an issue. It's a match. Probably the best match possible.

> Ilya recklessness...

This allegation calls for more context.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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post #135

Ilya knows how ChatGPT works. Any company that hires him will be able to catch up with ChatGPT.

Catching up right now is not a matter of tech innovation, but raw energy and compute. Of course, the next -revolution- in AI could very well come from Ilya. But why would he bestow that honor to anyone? He can self fund it if he wants. It's an R&D project, not a scaling problem.

If that is the case, why hasn't Google caught up yet?

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It could be a PR statement, it could also be genuine. From outside looking in there's no way to know, so I will just pretend this tweet doesn't exist.

It's PR for sure. A genuine announcement would have addressed the elephant in the room.

Sorry, which elephant?

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ilya represents the anti-OpenAI ethos. Can you elaborate more on this? What are some of the things the anti-OpenAI ethos stands for? And why do you think Ilya represents that given he was such a major part of OpenAI for so long?

Am I taking crazy pills or something? Because he was the one who tried to oust Sam like 6 months ago? Did we just all forget that or what? Again, why would any VC give Ilya money if that in any way signals that they are supporting someone who tried to oust the CEO of OpenAI from within? They wouldn't.

Because he is one of the big brains behind GPT-4; you know, the thing that propelled OpenAI there?

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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post #135

Ilya knows how ChatGPT works. Any company that hires him will be able to catch up with ChatGPT.

Catching up right now is not a matter of tech innovation, but raw energy and compute. Of course, the next -revolution- in AI could very well come from Ilya. But why would he bestow that honor to anyone? He can self fund it if he wants. It's an R&D project, not a scaling problem.

I'd argue it's mainly a matter of people. Otherwise Meta, Amazon, Google, etc would've released their versions like yesterday.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You will still need the compute resources of Microsoft, Meta etc. And they have their own people who equally know how LLMs work. Even raising funds is not a certainty given that VCs are becoming more cautious with AI as they realise it's now a platform fight between the mega corporations.

> Even raising funds is not a certainty given that VCs are becoming more cautious You'd think any investor would be utterly stupid to not make an exception for Ilya, regardless.

That’s not such a given. There are a toooon of deep pockets in this space already and absolutely zero path to profitable products for any of them.
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