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Post by golol »

CivBase wrote: post #128

Those voice demos are cool but having to listen to it speak makes me even more frustrated with how these LLMs will drone on and on without having much to say. For example, in the second video the guy explains how he will have it talk to another "AI" to get information. Instead of just responding with "Okay, I understand" it started talking about how interesting the idea sounded. And as the demo went on, both "AIs" ke…

Yea at some pont the style and tone of these assistants needs to be seriously changed, I can imagine a lot of their RLHF and instruct processes emphasize sounding good vs being good too much.

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Post by baq »

gdb wrote: post #43
Jensson wrote: post #24

The most impressive part is that the voice uses the right feelings and tonal language during the presentation. I'm not sure how much of that was that they had tested this over and over, but it is really hard to get that right so if they didn't fake it in some way I'd say that is revolutionary.

(I work at OpenAI.) It's really how it works.

> (I work at OpenAI.)

Winner of the 'understatement of the week' award (and it's only Monday).

Also top contender in the 'technically correct' category.

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Post by mttpgn »

gdb wrote: post #43
Jensson wrote: post #24

The most impressive part is that the voice uses the right feelings and tonal language during the presentation. I'm not sure how much of that was that they had tested this over and over, but it is really hard to get that right so if they didn't fake it in some way I'd say that is revolutionary.

(I work at OpenAI.) It's really how it works.

Licensing the emotion-intoned TTS as a standalone API is something I would look forward to seeing. Not sure how feasible that would be if, as a sibling comment suggested, it bypasses the text-rendering step altogether.

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Post by simonw »

MBCook wrote: post #142

Too bad they consume 25x the electricity Google does. https://www.brusselstimes.com/world-all-news/1042696/chatgpt...

That's not a well sourced story: it doesn't say where the numbers come from. Also:

"However, ChatGPT consumes a lot of energy in the process, up to 25 times more than a Google search."

That's comparing a Large Language Model prompt to a search query.

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Post by newzisforsukas »

Jensson wrote: post #24

The most impressive part is that the voice uses the right feelings and tonal language during the presentation. I'm not sure how much of that was that they had tested this over and over, but it is really hard to get that right so if they didn't fake it in some way I'd say that is revolutionary.

Right to who? To me, the voice sounds like an over enthusiastic podcast interviewer. Whats wrong with wanting computers to sound like what people think computers should sound like?

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Post by spacebanana7 »

MP_1729 wrote: post #105

This thing continues to stress my skepticism for AI scaling laws and the broad AI semiconductor capex spending. 1- OpenAI is still working in GPT-4-level models. More than 14 months after the launch of GPT-4 and after more than $10B in capital raised. 2- The rhythm that token prices are collapsing is bizarre. Now a (bit) better model for 50% of the price. How people seriously expect these foundational model companies…

Sam Altman gave the impression that foundation models would be a commodity on his appearance in the All in Podcast, at least in my read of what he said.

The revenue will likely come from application layer and platform services. ChatGPT is still much better tuned for conversation than anything else in my subjective experience and I’m paying premium because of that.

Alternatively it could be like search - where between having a slightly better model and getting Apple to make you the default, there’s an ad market to be tapped.

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Post by CosmicShadow »

In the video where the 2 AI's sing together, it starts to get really cringey and weird to the point where it literally sounds like it's being faked by 2 voice actors off-screen with literal guns to their heads trying not to cry, did anyone else get that impression?

The tonal talking was impressive, but man that part was like, is someone being tortured or forced against their will?

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Post by bbconn »

syntaxing wrote: post #32

I admit I drink the koolaid and love LLMs and their applications. But damn, the way it’s responds in the demo gave me goosebumps in a bad way. Like an uncanny valley instincts kicks in.

Yeah it made me realize that I actually don't want a human-like conversational bot (I have actual humans for that). Just teach me javascript like a robot.
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