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Re: Google’s newly formed 'Platforms and Devices' team is all about AI

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Post by smashah »

itsoktocry wrote: post #131
smashah wrote: post #118

"Google's previous head of software platforms like Android and ChromeOS, will be headed to "some new projects" at Google" Ok so they're more than willing and able to shut down divisions and relocate human resources to "new projects". Why not just do that with Nimbus? At least ChromeOS didn't put Google in the position of being complicit in a plausible ........ Strange decision making, shutdown and kill things people…

> puts the company at risk You think Numbus puts Google at risk , as opposed to strengthening its corporate standing with the US government?

Is that the dichotomy here? Strange worldview.

I mean at risk of being complicit in genocide.

Re: Google’s newly formed 'Platforms and Devices' team is all about AI

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Post by smashah »

immibis wrote: post #123
smashah wrote: post #118

"Google's previous head of software platforms like Android and ChromeOS, will be headed to "some new projects" at Google" Ok so they're more than willing and able to shut down divisions and relocate human resources to "new projects". Why not just do that with Nimbus? At least ChromeOS didn't put Google in the position of being complicit in a plausible ........ Strange decision making, shutdown and kill things people…

Because Nimbus makes lots of money.

Tesch and Stabenow probably made a lot of money with their government contracts also back in the day. Doesn't negate the fact that the way they made that money was wrong.

Re: Google’s newly formed 'Platforms and Devices' team is all about AI

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Post by lolinder »

momofuku wrote: post #164

I'd recommend folks read the last section of the announcement where these changes were announced [1]. The section is titled "Mission First", and I'm pretty sure the recent altercations at Google Cloud's offices over the past week [2] motivated much of the writing in this section. This seems like a stark change in how things happened at Google, and to put it explicitly in a blog was something I couldn't imagined to ha…

> We have a culture of vibrant, open discussion that enables us to create amazing products and turn great ideas into action. That's important to preserve. But ultimately we are a workplace and our policies and expectations are clear: this is a business, and not a place to act in a way that disrupts coworkers or makes them feel unsafe, to attempt to use the company as a personal platform, or to fight over disruptive issues or debate politics. This is too important a moment as a company for us to be distracted.

Honestly, good on them. Having a culture of honest and open discussion about work is important, but there's a very vocal minority in many companies that thinks their political opinions are both objective fact and the most important thing to discuss at any given work function.

When that kind of attitude seems to receive official support from the company it actually does make people with different political opinions feel unsafe at work. This is not okay, and it's not healthy for the company, and I'm glad to see Google finally pushing back against the idea that loud political fights are appropriate in the workplace.

Re: Google’s newly formed 'Platforms and Devices' team is all about AI

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Post by UncleMeat »

momofuku wrote: post #164

I'd recommend folks read the last section of the announcement where these changes were announced [1]. The section is titled "Mission First", and I'm pretty sure the recent altercations at Google Cloud's offices over the past week [2] motivated much of the writing in this section. This seems like a stark change in how things happened at Google, and to put it explicitly in a blog was something I couldn't imagined to ha…

Putting stuff in blogs has been the norm for several years now, as basically any email from Sundar inevitably leaks anyway.

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Post by UncleMeat »

serial_dev wrote: post #148

It feels like a large bundle to me, so they probably want to go for selling phones and computers much more heavily? Sounds interesting if you are okay with going all in with Google stuff, I'm not sure it's good news if you are using Android or Chrome otherwise. Also, it feels like this merger will lead to a similar article to Hixie's in about 5 years: > A symptom of this is the spreading contingent of inept middle ma…

It remains to be seen, but I don't really see it this way.

To me, this feels like Hiroshi went to Sundar and said that he wanted to step down or wanted to do something else or whatever. Sundar then had to choose whether to elevate one of Hiroshi's reports or elevate one of the other SVPs to lead two orgs together. Sundar chose Rick.

This feels more like a question of upper management politicking rather than mission change.

Re: Google’s newly formed 'Platforms and Devices' team is all about AI

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Post by JKCalhoun »

lolinder wrote: post #173
momofuku wrote: post #164

I'd recommend folks read the last section of the announcement where these changes were announced [1]. The section is titled "Mission First", and I'm pretty sure the recent altercations at Google Cloud's offices over the past week [2] motivated much of the writing in this section. This seems like a stark change in how things happened at Google, and to put it explicitly in a blog was something I couldn't imagined to ha…

> We have a culture of vibrant, open discussion that enables us to create amazing products and turn great ideas into action. That's important to preserve. But ultimately we are a workplace and our policies and expectations are clear: this is a business, and not a place to act in a way that disrupts coworkers or makes them feel unsafe, to attempt to use the company as a personal platform, or to fight over disruptive i…

I'm not so sure. You point to a vocal minority, I see something amiss for the company.

If I were "corporate" I would be asking myself why it is a group of my employees faced arrest, job loss to make a statement about company policies. I would want to know if it suggests a bigger problem down the road for the company.

Re: Google’s newly formed 'Platforms and Devices' team is all about AI

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Post by WillAdams »

karma_pharmer wrote: post #113
WillAdams wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why my next tech purchase will be a Raspberry Pi 5 and a Wacom One 13" touch screen --- my testing with a Raspberry Pi 4 and Wacom One (gen 1, no touch) went well, so I'm hopeful that this will work as well.

^ totally oblivious that he is trapped in the Broadcom Pi walled garden.

It would be nice to use some totally open firmware, but that's a big swing in terms of finance relative to the inexpensiveness of the rPi.

That said, I believe I can live with:

https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/561/is-the-b...

https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=340024

If someone would make a decent tablet with opensource underpinnings and Wacom EMR, I'd be glad to consider it.

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