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Re: MKBHDs for Everything

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nindalf wrote: post #87
n42 wrote: post #80

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regardless of your original point, which I happen to agree with, that title is as clickbait as it gets. it is a title designed to make you click to find out what product he's talking about. pretending it's not clickbait is disingenuous. I don't even care that it is clickbait. that's the game every YouTuber is playing. but, it is unashamed, by the book, clickbait.

We have different views of what clickbait is. Clickbait, in my view, is writing checks that your content can’t cash. MKBHD didn’t do that. He plainly said this was the worst product and then calmly explained why it was the worst product. The content completely fulfilled the promise of the title. No hyperbole, no exaggeration, just an honest review based on his weeks worth of use. He clearly says in the review that it…

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Post by nolongerthere »

dumbo-octopus wrote: post #111
al_borland wrote: post #103

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It’s the opposite of clickbait. The title saves the viewer from having to watch the video at all, as it says everything someone really needs to know in that single line. It’s a bad product. I find it silly that people are pointing at MKBHD for the downfall of a company, instead of the people who ran the company and decided to launch when the experience wasn’t good and the value proposition was poor. Releasing early t…

I personally have never once seen evidence that he "prefers" Android in any capacity. He has voiced opinions on things Android does well, and he has done the same for iOS. Anyone who thinks he has a personal preference one way or the other is very likely projecting.

At one point he tried making an iPhone his main phone and gave up after 2 weeks because he couldn’t figure out how to use shortcuts. He made a whole video about it.

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Post by tailspin2019 »

addicted wrote: post #168
tailspin2019 wrote: post #148

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You could apply that exact same argument to MKBHD’s slightly clickbait title of his video.

You could. You’d just be wrong. Because the title isn’t clickbait at all. It’s accurate. If anything, most other media writers have correctly been even more harsh on it. If you wanted to give Humane a ridiculous amount of leeway you could argue it’s a good concept but in Beta form but that’s not how they’re selling it to the general consumer. They’re charging them $700 and telling them it’s a consumer ready product.…

You’ve made a leap that I am somehow making a comment on the accuracy of his review.

I have no idea about Humane’s product or whether MKBHD’s review is accurate.

I’m simply making the point that “The worst product I’ve reviewed… For Now” is a bit clickbaity.

Ie it is specifically worded in a way that encourages clicks.

Re: MKBHDs for Everything

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Post by paxys »

rickdeckard wrote: post #139
paxys wrote: post #49

This entire controversy is so stupidly overblown. MKBHD posts a fair and thorough review of a shitty product, which is exactly in line with what every other reviewer has said about it as well. One guy tweets about how he wasn't fair, and how he has a responsibility to not write bad things about companies because of the size of his viewer base (wut??) Now the entire internet feels the need to come defend MKBHD, thus a…

I do wonder what would have happened if Humane would have launched the product as an invitation-only beta with a different pricing-scheme. The hardware is good enough to test it. Power-consumption, projector and voice-cloud-voice latency is too high. But that's probably all forgivable if it's a "public beta" with the clear statement that this is not a final mass-product... I think reviews would have been much better…

Humane has raised $230 million dollars in funding. It was obvious from their rushed launch and last minute pivot to "AI" that this was a desperate attempt to cash out. A product operating in a niche category with a small but dedicated userbase is useless for a VC who is looking to 10x their initial investment. They'd much rather risk it all for explosive growth.

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Post by danaris »

MichaelMug wrote: post #45

The drama tweets are just an ad. You kind of want to find out who "Daniel Vassallo" is, and of course he's selling a subscription.

Speak for yourself. I read someone tweeting stuff like that, and the last thing I want is to find out more about them or pay any attention to other things they have to say.

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Post by ilrwbwrkhv »

imp0cat wrote: post #91
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #58

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It's not clickbait. It is the worse product ever reviewed at that price point because it solves nothing. For now. You cannot just slap together a bunch of tech for no reason and then price it like Apple and pretend you're Apple. The fact that they received $240 million funding needs to be investigated in itself. Such terrible VCs need to be publicly humiliated.

The headline is not clickbait in this particular case, but it still sounds very "click-baity".

I mean he is an Youtuber after all. He is not writing titles for Reuters.

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Post by FumblingBear »

tailspin2019 wrote: post #174
addicted wrote: post #168

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You could. You’d just be wrong. Because the title isn’t clickbait at all. It’s accurate. If anything, most other media writers have correctly been even more harsh on it. If you wanted to give Humane a ridiculous amount of leeway you could argue it’s a good concept but in Beta form but that’s not how they’re selling it to the general consumer. They’re charging them $700 and telling them it’s a consumer ready product.…

You’ve made a leap that I am somehow making a comment on the accuracy of his review. I have no idea about Humane’s product or whether MKBHD’s review is accurate. I’m simply making the point that “The worst product I’ve reviewed… For Now” is a bit clickbaity . Ie it is specifically worded in a way that encourages clicks.

I somewhat agree that it's __somewhat__ clickbaity, but the other important part of something being clickbait is "being typically deceptive, sensationalized, or otherwise misleading". [0]

I'm sure there are some definitions of clickbait that don't require that, but at least colloquially with people I talk to, it's assumed that clickbait necessarily engages in deceptive behavior where the content is not aligned with the title / thumbnail.

In this case, it's certainly designed to draw attention and get a viewer to click, but it's also the thesis of the video. He literally considers it to be the worst product he's ever reviewed, and thinks that they may iterate on it to improve the functionality in the future.

[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clickbait

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Post by dumbo-octopus »

al_borland wrote: post #120
dumbo-octopus wrote: post #111

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I personally have never once seen evidence that he "prefers" Android in any capacity. He has voiced opinions on things Android does well, and he has done the same for iOS. Anyone who thinks he has a personal preference one way or the other is very likely projecting.

He carries both, because he needs to stay familiar with both, and there are some things that the iPhone does better (in his opinion), like video, and of course there is iMessage. He has said countless times that his main phone, and primary number, is on whatever Android phone he is currently carrying. I’m an iPhone user, so I’m not projecting, trying say he prefers my preferred platform. Here he is talking about usin…

My work happens to require my primary computer to be a Windows machine, and there are many functions Windows provides that the Mac equivalent cannot compete with, when it comes to the work I need to do. Does that mean I "prefer" Windows? I don't think so.

Re: MKBHDs for Everything

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Post by theshackleford »

sourcecodeplz wrote: post #37

I honestly watch almost all his videos but I was kind of surprised on how he handled the Humane AI pin. He basically shit on it for not being perfect. Remember, this is a product in a NEW CATEGORY. Of course it is not going to be perfect. But saying it is the WORST PRODUCT EVAH, is really shitty and way in the clouds (not down to earth). Anyway, I will continue to watch his videos because they are informative and ent…

Product looks like absolute garbage.

PEACE

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