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Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Post by dmitrygr »

sircastor wrote: post #112
h_tbob wrote: post #90

I hope they can learn to love each other. Makes me so upset when developers and business people can't figure out how to solve this outside of court.

Epic and Apple famously had a close relationship. A few years back, Epic was onstage at every Apple keynote. They were showing off games on iOS on macOS, talking about API development. I understand why Tim Sweeney felt like they were getting ripped off, but it seemed like they had a strong relationship. I wonder if something happened behind the scenes.

Sweeney vastly overestmated how much Epic mattered. Apple called his bluff.

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Post by JanSt »

notaustinpowers wrote: post #46
wvenable wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If he just complied with the EU then he'd be voted out by the board by the end of the week. Most companies like Facebook and Microsoft quietly comply with the rules as best they can with as little fanfare as possible. Maybe after paying a fine or two. As far as I know, there hasn't been any oustings because of that.

Apple hasn't faced a fine yet for this, so there's really no material harm to them for acting like this. And it's great theater for shareholders. I'm sure once we get to the point where the EU is going to begin issuing fines for DMA violations then Apple will change their position. Microsoft was acting like this in the 90s. I think history is just repeating itself with Apple.

Breton asked his team to look into the Epic / Apple case with _high priority_ yesterday.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Post by stale2002 »

andruby wrote: post #153
stale2002 wrote: post #145

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Regulators immediately started calling for an investigation and we're going to look into Apple’s termination of Epic’s developer account as a matter of priority.

I’d like to believe that, and it’s probably true. Do you have a source though?

https://twitter.com/ThierryBreton/status/1765793776692326891

This is the EU commissioner.

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Post by qeternity »

Aldo_MX wrote: post #121
qeternity wrote: post #114

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> They did this to themselves What...by being successful?

No, by being anti-competitive. Most countries have laws against monopolies, and it was naive to expect that countries would wait until you destroy the competition to enforce those laws.

> Most countries have laws against monopolies

They have less than 25% smartphone marketshare. What monopoly do they have?

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Post by kraig911 »

The joke, what do you have when you have a group of lawyers up to their necks in dog shit? Not enough dog shit...

It's just so insane how fast lawyers can bring the image, will and industry at large to it's knees. I think Apple's legal team should really take a hint (and a hit) from all of us in this industry. You're hurting Apple and the entire dev community more than you're helping.

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Post by toneyG »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #71
astlouis44 wrote: post #41

Amazing how fast this decision was reversed. It's truly awesome to see regulators standing up to walled gardens. This will greatly benefit both developers and consumers.

This is one of those things where there is only upside for everyone involved. Apple (and Google) need to be saved from themselves sometimes. Meanwhile the repeated reversals are making Apple look guilty and nefarious.

Apple and Google are for-profit corporations. Im sure they would protest that they don't need saving

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Post by Muromec »

KomoD wrote: post #126
Aldo_MX wrote: post #111

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It won't end, Apple is too big now, the alternatives are: 1. Split Apple into smaller companies 2. Operate Apple like an utility company They did this to themselves, and it's only downhill from this point.

> Split Apple into smaller companies Curious, how would you split them up? A lot of their stuff is very intertwined, I guess Beats, Shazam are easy to split into their own, but the rest?

For starters, it's Apple the phone making company, Apple the software making company and Apple the (software) distribution company. The cloud, the payment processing, the bank whatever else is there.

They can still be quite integrated, they just have to a allow a different distribution company compete without using the phone company's monopoly as a leverage against them and not use distribution company as a leverage to compete with other software developers i.e. pay the same 30% fee, bid for promotion in the store and use fair ranking in the search.

It's not the first time a huge corp gets split up once they reach end game and can't innovate in their own field anymore.

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