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Kagi and Wolfram

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Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by golf_mike »

andai wrote: post #145
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not sure "you and a swarm of a thousand digital clones" counts as fair use It obviously does not. You’re a commercial client.

> You’re a commercial client No, I'm broke and have no income. But about a year ago I wrote some 20 line Python programs that use GPT (feed it text from web searches) and was surprised to find they worked significantly better than Bing's AI search... I used it at a small scale with Python's (unofficial?) DuckDuckGo API, but I was looking for a way to scale up (ideally for free or very cheap). At the time, Bing's API…

You say you're broke witbout income, but from reading your comments you have at least some skills to pay the bills. And I bet that if you put your back into it you can do it without misusing the only good search we've got. Or anything else for that matter. Keep it up!

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by callalex »

Thoreandan wrote: post #105

So.... this is about a pay-subscription search engine called 'Kagi' out of Palo Alto, founded 2018. Made me think and have to do some digging for the 'Kagi' out of Berkeley founded in the 90s where you could register your shareware purchases in the days before PayPal. Which seems to have been largely scrubbed from history outside of some WayBack snapshots. https://www.macrumors.com/2016/08/01/kagi-shuts-down/ https:/…

Wow, that was a blast from the past, I had completely forgotten that's why the name seemed familiar.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by aio2 »

TradingPlaces wrote: post #101
flkiwi wrote: post #19

I’ve spent money on things because I had to, I’ve spent money because I wanted to. I have rarely spent money on something because the idea just sounded good and been so consistently pleased with what I received for my investment. It’s not free, but Kagi is a small investment for a vastly improved (and customizable) search experience.

Best $10 I spend every month.

I'd say food and water would be your best $10 investment

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by bombcar »

dickfickling wrote: post #122
Thoreandan wrote: post #105

So.... this is about a pay-subscription search engine called 'Kagi' out of Palo Alto, founded 2018. Made me think and have to do some digging for the 'Kagi' out of Berkeley founded in the 90s where you could register your shareware purchases in the days before PayPal. Which seems to have been largely scrubbed from history outside of some WayBack snapshots. https://www.macrumors.com/2016/08/01/kagi-shuts-down/ https:/…

The two are unrelated, but they do reference the shareware platform in their FAQ. https://help.kagi.com/kagi/faq/faq.html#are-you-affiliated-w...

Technically they're tenuously related as apparently they bought the name (and maybe the domain?) from whomever got it from the bankruptcy.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by bombcar »

freedomben wrote: post #127
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #34

I pay for Kagi’s duo plan, $14/month or $151.20/year [1], a discount which implies a 10% cost of capital. At that discount rate, a lifetime membership at $1,680 would be rational for Kagi ($600 individual). And at that price, I’d pay! Hell, do $3k flat (5% cost of capital; ~$1k individual) and throw in an annual in-person event and I’d call it a great deal. For Kagi, moreover, it would be permanent capital. (I would…

I don't think this would ultimately be healthy for Kagi. The continuing pressure to maintain the value of the subscription since people can cancel at anytime IMHO drives their success.

There's also a paradoxical effect where paying for something can make you value it more, whereas if you paid for it once and now it's "free" you'll value it less.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by LeoPanthera »

A lot of people may not realise that Apple's Spotlight has "instant knowledge" built in, too. The "norway gdp" example given in this post also works perfectly, telling me the GPD of Norway without having to actually do the search.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by LeoPanthera »

caycep wrote: post #162
nullstyle wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mathematica is a commercial product: https://www.wolfram.com/mathematica/pricing/

Who uses Mathematica, in this age of python/Julia etc? The Grad student world seems to be captured by Matlab

Every university on the planet uses Mathematica, and many schools too.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by natebc »

caycep wrote: post #162
nullstyle wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mathematica is a commercial product: https://www.wolfram.com/mathematica/pricing/

Who uses Mathematica, in this age of python/Julia etc? The Grad student world seems to be captured by Matlab

I work at a mid-size private university in the US. We hold a license for both Matlab and Mathematica. Both are used in our labs and for independent study and coursework.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by derjames »

qwertox wrote: post #83

Wolfram Alpha still has the same old bug: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=2016-04-04+to+2019-01-3... = 2 years 9 months 27 days https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=2019-01-31+to+2016-04-0... = 2 years 9 months 26 days The duration should be identical but is off by one day. One day a space mission will fail due to this bug. Reported several times, they never cared.

If you use "from" in the second example, the answer is the same as in the first ... anyway the system should figure it out.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by lmm »

kevincox wrote: post #130
paradox460 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only that, but you can make it rewrite all reddit links to use old.reddit.com

You can also change your Reddit settings to use the old UI for www.reddit.com.

It doesn't work on mobile though.
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