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Hetzner switches to new billing model

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Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

#171

Hetzner is one of those "just take my money" services, so more power to them. Besides, for some reason I always thought they charge hourly but show pricing in monthly format for easier pricing.

What other services fall into the "just take my money" category? I fully agree, Hetzner is a good deal.

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

#172

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It's a private service; private companies can choose whoever they want to do business with. They're not a public service.

Are you sure about that? I know of a precedent in Poland, where a company refused to service (print some kind of invitation cards) some LGBT people, and was punished for it. I imagine the laws in Germany are similar to the laws in Poland in that regard, both countries being in the European Union. In USA, I really doubt any company could refuse to serve black people. Or women. I wonder if the downvoters of my previous…

I don't know about the downvotes, and I'm not a lawyer so take this with a grain of salt, but there's a difference between a service to the public (e.g. a café or a restaurant) and a service such as Hetzner.

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

#173

Hetzner is one of those "just take my money" services, so more power to them. Besides, for some reason I always thought they charge hourly but show pricing in monthly format for easier pricing.

>just take my money

and run MITM services*, yes.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37961166

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

#174

Hetzner is one of those "just take my money" services, so more power to them. Besides, for some reason I always thought they charge hourly but show pricing in monthly format for easier pricing.

Way better than DigitalOcean, I hope they keep being that way

Can you share some specific reasons?

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

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Yep: Dear Mr David Allison After reviewing your updated customer information, we have decided to deactivate your account because of some concerns we have regarding this information. Therefore, we have cancelled all your existing products and orders with us. Best regards Your Hetzner Online Team

Literally this. Their staff won't provide any details, nor even a route towards a solution. When I asked what they suggest doing in this situation, they simply stopped responding.

Of course they don't. If they tell you why they have banned you, if you were a scammer, you'd know how they caught you and what to do better next time.

That's why none of the fraud prevention systems, be they at a tech company or a bank, tell you exactly why you've been banned/denied.

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

#176
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That's terrifying. Did they at least give you time to backup your data?

I was evaluating them at the time. No data loss

Maybe you personally had no data loss, but I believe that the question was the more general "could other users in this situation expect to be able to recover their data?".

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#177
Nice but illegal in some European countries. If you have a cost with a fixed deal (aka bare metal server per month) law has it that its upfront. If its a monthly cost it should be invoiced be the first 5 days of the following month.

I guess I can tell the IRS that Hetzner has a problem with their cron jobs or with the uniform distribution of their accounting people workload.

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

#178
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Please note that Hetzner does this only in couple cases: a) fake account data ; b) previous strikes (unpaid invoices, abuse etc..) with them ; c) in some cases customer is from country they do not do business with. I bet gazzilion OP above is within a or b

Their ToS also classifies Crypto-Mining, farming or plotting (whatever that is) as grounds for cancellation. Also everything forbidden by German law results in a cancellation. So if you would have for example posted something before 2017 about a state leader that might seem like an insult your server might be gone. ( https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2017-07-26/ger... ) https://cdn.hetzner.com/assets/Uplo…

Make sure you avoid p2p stuff that scans for other servers on the hetzner network, too, even if it's legitimate and not infringing on copyright. They won't ban you right away, but their systems will detect it and give you 24h to confirm you're not infected with malware before shutting down the server. For IPFS or Bittorrent, you should be able to use it for legitimate purposes after blocking the local IPs.

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

#179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a private service; private companies can choose whoever they want to do business with. They're not a public service.

Are you sure about that? I know of a precedent in Poland, where a company refused to service (print some kind of invitation cards) some LGBT people, and was punished for it. I imagine the laws in Germany are similar to the laws in Poland in that regard, both countries being in the European Union. In USA, I really doubt any company could refuse to serve black people. Or women. I wonder if the downvoters of my previous…

In Germany you are allowed to discriminate on all not protected factors.

protected factors are: race or ethnic background, gender, religion or belief, disability, age, or sexual orientation.

belief has a very high bar to meet, you are for example still allowed to discriminate against members of a political party.

discriminating based on location matching ip adress or not doing business with certain countrys is fully legal

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

#180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure about that? I know of a precedent in Poland, where a company refused to service (print some kind of invitation cards) some LGBT people, and was punished for it. I imagine the laws in Germany are similar to the laws in Poland in that regard, both countries being in the European Union. In USA, I really doubt any company could refuse to serve black people. Or women. I wonder if the downvoters of my previous…

I don't know about the downvotes, and I'm not a lawyer so take this with a grain of salt, but there's a difference between a service to the public (e.g. a café or a restaurant) and a service such as Hetzner.

No there is not, there is a difference between government services and private businesses but all private businesses play by the same rules
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