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Re: Private company landing on the moon today

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Post by _yb2s »

mosselman wrote: post #157
NedF wrote: post #7

Landing in ~ 8 hours. "The Odysseus moon lander is aiming for a 5:30 p.m. EST (2230 GMT) lunar landing" https://www.space.com/intuitive-machines-odysseus-moon-landi...

Pretty cheeky of Columbia to sponsor this. They couldn't even make the shoes I bought that were 'absolutely waterproof' actually waterproof. A super light rain would result in wet feet. This didn't even happen in normal sneakers. But it is all about image I guess.

Columbia is known for incredibly good lifetime warranty- contact them and get something that works for free.

I use mostly Columbia gear for some pretty serious outdoor adventures, and generally consider their waterproof tech, especially outdry rain shells to be the best you can get at any price. However, I don't (and wouldn't) use any of their footwear.

For waterproof footwear, breathable membranes don't work well in my experience, they quickly tear and leak. The membranes are just too delicate for the forces and flexing on a boot. A really well built traditional leather boot with external waterproofing like Sno Seal applied daily is both more breathable, and more waterproof. Failing that, heavy rubber boots like commercial fisherman wear are really the only totally waterproof footwear.

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

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Post by adolph »

Someone wrote: post #115
_just7_ wrote: post #103

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The simplest way to do it is probably just to have a high quality 360 camera, that way you mostly get around the problem of orientation

Yes, but even that isn’t simple, I think. They’d not want to land on top of it, so they’d have to push it out from the lander or have it propel itself away from the lander. If they push it out and it doesn’t have a way to stabilize itself, keeping the lens pointing upwards then will require tight control over that push. So, I guessed (see below) you’d need power to make the sat orient itself. However, I googled a bit…

> push it out from the lander

Selfie stick sounds simpler.

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

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Post by FactKnower69 »

azinman2 wrote: post #93
rossdavidh wrote: post #43

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The US flag on the early moon landings, was absolutely an advertisement; the whole thing was done as a propaganda riposte to the Soviet Union's Sputnik. Doesn't mean it's not awesome.

There is a meaningful difference between national pride and 2 for 1 at Dominos.

Diseased worldview

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

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Post by FactKnower69 »

JoeDaDude wrote: post #169
wesselbindt wrote: post #162

This is great, it really proves that the free market can be just as innovative and efficient as the public sector. They managed to get there less than 50 years after the taxpayer funded space guys did. No small feat! Imagine all the things they must've learned along the way!

You do realize this mission is taxpayer funded. Intuitive Machines is getting paid as part of a contract to NASA under the Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLIPS) program. https://www.nasa.gov/commercial-lunar-payload-services/ https://www.nasa.gov/missions/artemis/clps/intuitive-machine...

No way!! I thought private enterprise didn't need government handouts?

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

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Post by johnwalkr »

azinman2 wrote: post #93
rossdavidh wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US flag on the early moon landings, was absolutely an advertisement; the whole thing was done as a propaganda riposte to the Soviet Union's Sputnik. Doesn't mean it's not awesome.

There is a meaningful difference between national pride and 2 for 1 at Dominos.

In 2001 Pizza Hut actually had its logo on a Russian rocket, and delivered pizza to cosmonauts on ISS as part of a robotic resupply mission.

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

dylan604 wrote: post #135
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #134

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Do you not see how that just furthers the parent's point? If I have to license usage of something, I don't actually own it.

I think we have a basic misunderstanding of private vs public ownership. When we all own it, you can't just do whatever you want like build a house, but withe proper permit, you can use it. If it was private, I could never do something with what you owned.

In the case of public ownership, I don't own it though. The entire public does. I'm willing to say "the people own" these telescopes, but that isn't what you originally said. You said "as an American, you own them" which isn't true.

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

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Post by lukan »

sdwr wrote: post #113
Someone wrote: post #90

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuitive_Machines_Nova-C#Eagl... : “EagleCam to record lunar landing Just before landing, at approximately 30 m (98 ft) above the lunar surface, the Odysseus lander will eject the EagleCam camera-equipped CubeSat, which will drop onto the lunar surface near the lander, with an impact velocity of about 10 m/s (22 mph). From the surface the EagleCam will attempt to capture the first third…

That's an impressive school project! First university to land on the moon

Unless they would have build and operated the rocket themself (and not SpaceX), I would consider that a false clickbait headline.

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

xpe wrote: post #152
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #134

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Do you not see how that just furthers the parent's point? If I have to license usage of something, I don't actually own it.

Ownership rights and various kinds of access rights are not identical and often conflated. For example, if I own a water well, I don’t necessarily have the rights to do whatever I want with it. Some jurisdictions might let me pump out as much water as I want, but even those will punish me for blatantly polluting it (one would hope). What some people think of as something akin to “total ownership” — completely unlimit…

I would say that in your example, the well is really two things: the water table (which you don't own), and the pump you use to draw water (which you do own).
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