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Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by astrange »

g-b-r wrote: post #113
mlindner wrote: post #99

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> The software should probably force text to be aligned on whole real pixels, even if that detracts a little from the realism. I think that'd be difficult given that pixels are effectively "non-rectangular" given the warping from the lenses.

Well they might be non-rectangular, but text aligned on their borders should still be sharper than misaligned text, no?

High DPI monitor text effectively can't be misaligned, especially since Apple's text rendering always dilated characters instead of trying to fit them onto pixel grids.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by RajT88 »

leptons wrote: post #127
gffrd wrote: post #108

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I’ve wondered the same. Apple has been a “given” for 20 years because they somehow keep shipping great stuff and avoid the Microsoft trap of looking like total dorks by existing in an echo chamber. Even if they made a small misstep or had an awkward moment in a launch announcement, it was seen as endearing and forgivable. But there seem to be an increase in moments where Apple comes across as behind the curve, or not…

>avoid the Microsoft trap of looking like total dorks by existing in an echo chamber. Lolwhut?? Microsoft wishes it had a fraction of the echo chamber Apple fans create. It's what Apple is known for. >Even if they made a small misstep or had an awkward moment in a launch announcement, it was seen as endearing and forgivable. Uhhhh... "You're holding it wrong" was an absolute unmitigated PR disaster for Apple. It was…

> "You're holding it wrong"

I cringe every time I hear someone say this to malign stupid users. Yes, I hear it at work.

Some people legit only read the headlines about that story, not the articles.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by d--b »

karim79 wrote: post #167
d--b wrote: post #157

I just had an idea. I was somewhat intrigued by why people would recreate the same kind of setup in AR with monitor screens. Ok you get more of them, but at some point more screens is just distracting. What if instead this was the occasion for a true AR experience. Like instead of popping up a monitor, you can open a textbook. As in a physical text book sitting on your desk, each page would be covered in qr codes or…

Sounds like something you can have or enjoy in real life, and without having an expensive 600-650g weight on your head. (I do like the idea of virtual postits, mind you).

What do you mean I can have this in real life? I am talking about having a bunch of paper sheets, each being its own small screen.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by Kon-Peki »

cromka wrote: post #79
iamjake648 wrote: post #38

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I returned mine today after attempting to use it for work for a few hours at a time over the last week. I felt the same eye strain with my Mac as a mirrored display. Zoom calls were cool, but nobody could take the Persona seriously. After a few days the eye strain seemed to get worse and worse, until yesterday it give me such a bad headache I decided that was enough.

> Zoom calls were cool, but nobody could take the Persona seriously. This is going to be another of their socially awkward gimmicks like Memojis they will double down until they inevitably fail. I really feel like Apple actually just doesn’t feel it and every time they’re pushing their weird geeky ideas onto their users they loose a bit of coolness factor. And if kids decide Apple got too cringe, while someone else m…

> they’re pushing their weird geeky ideas onto their users

This thing is like $5k all-in and even then you have to get on a waiting list. I wouldn’t really say that they’re pushing this on people.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by rpmisms »

leptons wrote: post #127
gffrd wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve wondered the same. Apple has been a “given” for 20 years because they somehow keep shipping great stuff and avoid the Microsoft trap of looking like total dorks by existing in an echo chamber. Even if they made a small misstep or had an awkward moment in a launch announcement, it was seen as endearing and forgivable. But there seem to be an increase in moments where Apple comes across as behind the curve, or not…

>avoid the Microsoft trap of looking like total dorks by existing in an echo chamber. Lolwhut?? Microsoft wishes it had a fraction of the echo chamber Apple fans create. It's what Apple is known for. >Even if they made a small misstep or had an awkward moment in a launch announcement, it was seen as endearing and forgivable. Uhhhh... "You're holding it wrong" was an absolute unmitigated PR disaster for Apple. It was…

You're misunderstanding. Apple exists in an echo chamber, Microsoft wishes they did.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by astrange »

euroderf wrote: post #30
larrysalibra wrote: post #8

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It ranges from okay to not that bad. It’s not as good as the “retina” screens in Apple’s other products. I can definitely see pixels on the device if I’m wearing contacts unlike what most of the early reviewers claimed. But it’s not so bad as to be unusable and you don’t really notice them in most contexts - the main place I notice pixels is using it as a screen for macOS. VisionOS apps are rendered very large by def…

Now there is a topic. How does it work with contacts ? Does it obviate the need for the 149$ Zeiss add-ons ? Do you blink enough in the environment ?

The purchase path in the online store will ask what kind of contacts you have, and if they're compatible will recommend using them instead of inserts.

The main advantage is that it's less crowded in there, I suppose.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by d--b »

ugh123 wrote: post #166
d--b wrote: post #157

I just had an idea. I was somewhat intrigued by why people would recreate the same kind of setup in AR with monitor screens. Ok you get more of them, but at some point more screens is just distracting. What if instead this was the occasion for a true AR experience. Like instead of popping up a monitor, you can open a textbook. As in a physical text book sitting on your desk, each page would be covered in qr codes or…

I wouldn't want to deal with losing papers, ripping them, etc. why not have the AR create them for you? Seems like you want some extra realism surrounding your screen space. So have a life-like book where individual pages (easy to turn hopefully) are different browser tabs.

Replacing a paper would be just like opening a new browser tab.

A virtual book can’t give you the same level of interaction as a physical one. Virtual interaction are clunky at best.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by resonious »

Supermancho wrote: post #153
whateveracct wrote: post #150

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why exactly?

If a meeting is simplistic enough not to need planning and action items, you don't need a meeting. Make a conference call. If action items are simplistic enough that you don't need to consider calendars for the future, don't need the ability to show the status of existing concerning items, and any reliable information is conveyed via paper, you've got multiple problems. Mostly you have a culture problem, to put it si…

I'd probably make the opposite argument. If I'm messing with my computer during a meeting then the meeting probably didn't require me to be physically present. At that point it could've been either remote or async facilitated by software.

This is unless I'm running the meeting and my laptop is plugged into the big screen.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by whateveracct »

Supermancho wrote: post #153
whateveracct wrote: post #150

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why exactly?

If a meeting is simplistic enough not to need planning and action items, you don't need a meeting. Make a conference call. If action items are simplistic enough that you don't need to consider calendars for the future, don't need the ability to show the status of existing concerning items, and any reliable information is conveyed via paper, you've got multiple problems. Mostly you have a culture problem, to put it si…

multitasking is a myth. you can't futz with a computer and pay attention.
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