zed's great but they need to prioritise remote ssh like vscode. literally the main way most people do dev
Almost no one uses remote SSH to do development.
Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source
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Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source
#172You know the AI craze is real when adding chat gpt-4 to a text editor is higher priority than Linux and/or Windows support
It’s likely that Zed does not want users, or wants specific kind of users as this stage of their company maturity. Mac developer is a proxy for the user type Zed is probably aiming to sell service: Western, wealthy, senior. Whileas Windows users are everyone and their uncle. Scaling to large userbase does not make sense if they are not going to pay for your product.
I'm just sour about lack of Linux support, it's like I'm in 1998 again except now instead of Microsoft Windows ignoring us it's Apple macOS.
A WINE like project for macOS software would be great
Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source
#173> respond to your keystrokes on the next display refresh Claimed insertion latency for a keystroke: - zed 58ms - subl 75ms - vscode 97ms - clion 83ms 60 Hz displays refresh once every ~16.6ms. 58ms to insert a character is ~3.5 frames. My laptop can do 120 Hz, and other monitors can even do 300 Hz. Yeah, it's a lot faster than the other editors, but 58ms seems really slow - definitely not "next display refresh". All…
As computers got more complex, latency increased. It's really pretty remarkable to see how things have changed over the years[1]. I do agree that 58ms seems far outside of the range of "next display refresh", however.
Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source
#174Is there a way to disable all "collaborative" features, including removing the "Sign in" button?
Now that it's FOSS, you can fork it.
The polite thing to do if you have a feature you think would make a FOSS project better is to submit a feature request first. If the maintainers decide they won’t support your feature quickly enough or at all, then fork it. GP did the right thing here
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hey! Engineer at Zed here. Linux port is on our roadmap. Hopefully we'll get it done this year!
Since you are here I'll hijack the thread :) What about remote support ala vscode-server over SSH.
I'm really keen for Windows support, but only if it means WSL. I hope their architecture allows for it.
Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source
#176How many people find real time sharing helpful? I've never found it to be beneficial. I'm curious.
In our 100% remote startup, VSCode live share and Slack Huddles is how we work through the really tough stuff together.
We should probably do it more often than we do, but there is a real fatigue after an hour or two.
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
emacs. Totally free and open source since 1976. oh, sorry, you asked for an IDE and not an operating system... /s seriously, budget a day or two for the ergonomics and a week for wrangling plugins, but some of the most productive developers in the world use emacs and they never need to worry about vendor issues, porting issues, not having a GUI, support for some weird file type, ability to create some funky type of m…
If you have to install plugins then it's not an IDE, it's just a text editor.
I wonder what you'd consider an IDE nowadays. Modern text editors do every single thing.
Is it just about the installation format?
Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source
#178You know the AI craze is real when adding chat gpt-4 to a text editor is higher priority than Linux and/or Windows support
In product management parlance, this is low hanging fruit.
Easy to implement and capitalizes on something the market is highly interested in at the moment.
Given the concentration of developers who use Macs, and the accelerating interest in LLM-assisted coding, this makes a lot of sense to me.
And while it may be true that AI is a craze, this is also a very real and useful feature grounded in a solid use case that has high impact on its users unlike some of the crazes of the past that were purely built on hype.
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#179Since it's on macOS, are there any Xcode themes?
Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please not ala vscode-server over SSH. Do it proper like emacs tramp so it will connect to any platforms/architectures.
“Please don’t do it like a 4x4 truck, do it proper, like a bicycle” — there is some overlap between those things, but for people who are actually making full use of the former, the latter is not a useful suggestion
I'd suggest that the people who make "full use" of vsc-over-ssh are satisfied with vscode, so it would be unwise to target the full featureset.
More generally, targeting another project's complete featureset is often a great way to get mired down in the wrong details. Unless you can afford to do a proper cleanroom -- then, you'll be able to at least match the performance and useful abstractions used in the original.