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Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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> That's up for a through debate, but not today Were it not for Tesla, America wouldn’t be on a path towards electrified transport. The tradeoffs are incredibly germane to the topic.

Even if we take for granted that Tesla is a net positive, Tesla isn't SV. For every Tesla there is a Facebook that is a net negative. Just ask Myanmar.

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Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Can't you all just use an electric bike or something? Or an electric scooter?

Even in walkable and cyclable European cities, we'd been priced out long time ago. You'll not be the smiling person on a bicycle from promotional city leaflet, you'll live 30 km from the city and commute in dacia duster.

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> they change the world. For the better. That's up for a through debate, but not today. Let's leave it at I don't agree that part 100%.

> That's up for a through debate, but not today Were it not for Tesla, America wouldn’t be on a path towards electrified transport. The tradeoffs are incredibly germane to the topic.

I doubt that. The innovation in lithium ion batteries was fueled by the demand for consumer electronics, laptops in particular. It’s the batteries that made electric cars possible.

Tesla’s did kick off the trend of big screens in cars. I prefer buttons to touch screen interactions while driving, but many people want an iPad and Tesla made that happen.

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Isn't it simply because it has no regular service intervals at all so EVERY time it goes to service, it's because of some fault? While other cars have the faulty components changed during at least annual, and usually more frequent service (normally it's 1 year of 15K km whichever comes first), and it doesn't count as a fault? Here in Cyprus, there is no Tesla service and no one knows how to fix them. So people just b…

Servicing is supposed to be preventative maintenance. If stuff is actually breaking, it not being done correctly - intervals or not.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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There are a few important caveats here: TÜV is no longer the sole inspection authority and a lot of people and dealerships switched away from it, especially when they try to save money. This might favor cheaper brands in this statistic.

Additionaly, a lot of the more expensive brands (like VW and BMW) will do the inspection as part of a regular service and inspect the car beforehand, making failures less likely.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Many of these Tesla TÜV inspection faults boil down to surface rust on the braking discs. Tesla's are using regen too much, which let's them accumulate surface rust. This won't fail you in other countries, but it does in Germany since it's part of the braking system. The obvious solution would be a software update to use the breaks occasionally and intensely. I'm disappointed by the TÜV since they do not list the act…

I don’t understand this. Brake rotors will flash rust in a light drizzle when parked. And rust on the rotors causes drag for the first few wheel rotations, it doesn’t compromise the system.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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> That's up for a through debate, but not today Were it not for Tesla, America wouldn’t be on a path towards electrified transport. The tradeoffs are incredibly germane to the topic.

I look SV's effect on global scale, because I neither live in the US, nor located on the continent itself. Also, the debate is about SV's global impact at full spectrum, not only about Tesla. So, yes, it's up for debate. Lastly this doesn't change the fact that Tesla fared the worst in the automaking competition this year w.r.t. everyone else, and they're faking till they're making it. More automakers are always good…

> So, yes, it's up for debate

I never disagreed. I’m saying the case at hand, EVs, provide a potent balance of the tradeoffs Silicon Valley’s methods involve.

On one hand, you get the capacity for transformational change. Change that can be for the general good. On the other hand, we have costs ranging from a culture of normalised lying to ideological nothingburgers gaining currency due to their proximity to, well, currency.

Put another way, remove Silicon Valley from the equation and yes, we have safer cars. But we also have little reason to be optimistic about ever hitting carbon zero in this country. The latter is more globally relevant than the former.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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post #161

Many of these Tesla TÜV inspection faults boil down to surface rust on the braking discs. Tesla's are using regen too much, which let's them accumulate surface rust. This won't fail you in other countries, but it does in Germany since it's part of the braking system. The obvious solution would be a software update to use the breaks occasionally and intensely. I'm disappointed by the TÜV since they do not list the act…

Other car manufacturers have implemented occasional breaks using the breaking discs for years. I don’t know why it should be fine to not do that

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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post #161

Many of these Tesla TÜV inspection faults boil down to surface rust on the braking discs. Tesla's are using regen too much, which let's them accumulate surface rust. This won't fail you in other countries, but it does in Germany since it's part of the braking system. The obvious solution would be a software update to use the breaks occasionally and intensely. I'm disappointed by the TÜV since they do not list the act…

> Many of these Tesla TÜV inspection faults boil down to surface rust on the braking discs.

Unless your inspector has a particularly bad day, you will not fail the inspection for this. They might also simply ask you to do a five minute drive and brake hard a few times. If the brakes are still in a safe condition, this should be sufficient.

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post #11

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All this should be recommended in the UI. The car DOES have maintenance needs. Lots of people in models X & S are surprised to find their seemingly ok tires are NOT OK because they wear very quickly on the non-visible inside edge. there are brakes on the car, which have pads and fluid. There is coolant for the battery. Honestly, there should be a maintenance screen in the UI. You should be able to replace tires, or w…

Brakes are probably going to last for at least 100k miles easily. Mine are still fine after 150k miles.

Pads and rotors - yes. Fluid - probably not. Usually changing fluid every 2 years is a good idea. Both to keep brakes performance and prevent rusting due to water slowly making it’s way into the system.
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