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Post by kaba0 »

FredPret wrote: post #169
kaba0 wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you know if any of the startups succeeded because of/irrespective/or despite him? Just as a fact: his only technical contribution to teslas is the design of the goddamn rearview mirror. There are plenty of (unconfirmed) accounts of having to deliberately present information to elon a certain way so he will accept the decision made by the experts, which while I don’t know how true, seems surprisingly plausible,…

sigh > Just as a fact: his only technical contribution to teslas is the design of the goddamn rearview mirror. There are plenty of (unconfirmed) accounts of having to deliberately present information to elon a certain way so he will accept the decision made by the experts, which while I don’t know how true, seems surprisingly plausible, given his personality. First of all, how do you know this. Where you a fly on the…

> first of all

This is his only patent.

> Second, why are you willing to believe that good decisions can be made by "the experts", but if it's a rich, brash person you don't like, they can't possibly be "an expert"?

This is not an american movie where the boss can change the tide of the whole company by just being so damn good. Reality is also not about CEOs bullshitting why are they so productive with their yoga-10min sleep-whatever diet, working 40 hours in 24. Both tesla and spacex require actual hard engineering knowledge and experience, which elon thoroughly lacks. Like, even if he would be super-human intelligent, these are (and most fields are like this) so specialized, that he couldn’t contribute in a useful manner. Let alone with his actual capabilities, which are thoroughly lacking.

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Post by FredPret »

kaba0 wrote: post #171
FredPret wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sigh > Just as a fact: his only technical contribution to teslas is the design of the goddamn rearview mirror. There are plenty of (unconfirmed) accounts of having to deliberately present information to elon a certain way so he will accept the decision made by the experts, which while I don’t know how true, seems surprisingly plausible, given his personality. First of all, how do you know this. Where you a fly on the…

> first of all This is his only patent. > Second, why are you willing to believe that good decisions can be made by "the experts", but if it's a rich, brash person you don't like, they can't possibly be "an expert"? This is not an american movie where the boss can change the tide of the whole company by just being so damn good. Reality is also not about CEOs bullshitting why are they so productive with their yoga-10m…

It's like you're making my points for me.

- Have you interviewed Elon? You have great insight into his "actual" capabilities, as well as his "actual engineering knowledge and experience", not to mention his sleep schedule.

- Do you think there's no value in technical leadership?

- Why do you think progress can be made by many correct decisions at the detailed level made by many engineers, but not by a few correct decisions at the high level made by an engineering leader?

- Do you honestly, honestly believe the only thing he contributed to was the rear-view mirror because that's his only patent?

(by the way, that's exactly the kind of joke that he would love)

- Has it occurred to you that he did not file a patent application for every single thing he did?

- Or that he certainly had a directing influence in almost every aspect of those cars?

- Or that his main contribution is creating the business and factory system that makes the cars?

There's a lot to criticize about this man, and all other people who do things on a big scale, but it really looks like 99.9% of the criticism is just mindless, directionless hate.

Re: X.com is Twitter, but what are [a-z].com?

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Post by iAMkenough »

jrmg wrote: post #164
js8 wrote: post #146

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Despite all the billionaire meta-craze, people still use Google, Facebook and Twitter.

I don’t think this is a good comparison. For Google and Facebook, that’s still what the products are called.

Their goals are all the same. Google and Facebook did it right, Elon did it wrong.

The companies grew larger than their flagship product, so they created a new umbrella brand for the company to continue expanding with new products with their own identities.

Rather than throw out the decades of brand recognition and destroy the identity of their flagship product in order to make it serve as an umbrella for video calls or banking or whatever else is crammed into X.

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Post by sangnoir »

kaba0 wrote: post #167
dingnuts wrote: post #133

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not that I'm exactly hopeful or that I think this indicates wisdom in Elon's move, or that he will be successful, but it -would- be good to have a social media site that isn't advertising supported, so that the users aren't the product. Aren't we always on about that on this site?

Well, if someone wants to change the monetizing strategy of their company, it is advisable to figure one out before cutting the existing one.

That would be the smart thing to do

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Post by teknico »

mcv wrote: post #127
jrmg wrote: post #103

But of a tangent, but: every time I see a link to an X post, I’m finding it increasingly weird that the Twitter -> X rename happened with a big splash some time ago now, but the actual x.com domain is still redirecting to twitter.com rather than the other way around.

I'm surprised to see so many people and newspapers humouring Musk and obeying his name change when many pages on twitter.com still call it twitter. It's still Twitter. There's no need to call it X unless you want to want to do free advertising for Musk's name change.

Xwitter.

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Post by klyrs »

halJordan wrote: post #170
mcv wrote: post #127

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I'm surprised to see so many people and newspapers humouring Musk and obeying his name change when many pages on twitter.com still call it twitter. It's still Twitter. There's no need to call it X unless you want to want to do free advertising for Musk's name change.

It's simple professionalism. X is its name. Quite disheartening to constantly see the pull towards unprofessionalism just because the target is an other. Your own integrity should be pulling you to represent yourself correctly. It should have nothing to do with your external feelings towards the thing. And especially have nothing to do with your desire to hurt something.

Elon's still calling it twitter. Is that unprofessional, and othering?

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Post by bookmark1231 »

runamuck wrote: post #86
karmakaze wrote: post #25

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That's less than 3%/year which seems not so bad considering how so many things were up the past few years.

Not so bad!?! If my house value plummeted 30% in nine years that would make me furious.

The “real” value of goods doesn’t change just because the value of currency changes. You’d be much more upset at 30% deflation, which is why there are inflation targets.

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Post by mardifoufs »

mcv wrote: post #127
jrmg wrote: post #103

But of a tangent, but: every time I see a link to an X post, I’m finding it increasingly weird that the Twitter -> X rename happened with a big splash some time ago now, but the actual x.com domain is still redirecting to twitter.com rather than the other way around.

I'm surprised to see so many people and newspapers humouring Musk and obeying his name change when many pages on twitter.com still call it twitter. It's still Twitter. There's no need to call it X unless you want to want to do free advertising for Musk's name change.

What the hell does it have to do with musk? If a corporation changes its name, journalists usually use the new name. Especially for big corporations. Do you want them to not use the new (very stupid) name, just to... own the musk?

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Post by potatopatch »

mardifoufs wrote: post #179
mcv wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised to see so many people and newspapers humouring Musk and obeying his name change when many pages on twitter.com still call it twitter. It's still Twitter. There's no need to call it X unless you want to want to do free advertising for Musk's name change.

What the hell does it have to do with musk? If a corporation changes its name, journalists usually use the new name. Especially for big corporations. Do you want them to not use the new (very stupid) name, just to... own the musk?

Companies usually do the name change correctly.. This is more like the artist who should always have been referred to as Prince. Telling people about the other name isn't an updated reference it is a lost reference.
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