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Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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post #60

Putting Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland (AKA Ireland) on different timezones strikes me as political suicide for anyone proposing it. But otherwise I am warm to the proposal. Some tweaks would make it more practical/politically acceptable (keep Portugal and Ireland on the Western Time Zone, don't split up Greece from the islands).

Not even one of the signatory experts is from UK/Ireland. They could be completely clueless of what dynamite they are playing with.

Yeah, but given they seem to be proposing that the UK change from its current natural position, to what would be permanent BST, it seems daft. (It would help if they'd included the UTC offsets with their diagram)

I'd suggest that ain't going to happen, especially as the UK is no longer a member of the EU, and so this will be ignored.

As I recall part of the issue with the previous time this was proposed was that the UK intended to continuing observing Summer Time in the summer, and hence it would cause issues for Ireland if it had to stop switching.

I guess we can only wait and see...

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

#175
post #168

All attempts to optimize society by changing time zones and adjusting for daylight savings time time should be abandoned. Let society set the schedule after a static time. With this I mean ordinary time zones and the same time throughout the year. Which approximately should correspond with the sun at its highest at noon. If someone prefers brighter mornings and darker afternoons, and someone else the opposite, the so…

Honestly I would prefer to go even further - UTC for the entire planet, no offsets. Unfortunately I know most people won't go for that...

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

#176

This almost feels like a false flag of proposing the most disruptive plan possible such that it couldn't possibly be approved, haha. Splitting & re-groupings are almost arbitrary and have no consideration for politics, business and culture. Ireland & N. Ireland in different TZ? France & Corsica in different TZ? Pushing Ireland & Portugal into their own TZ and calling it Azores time? Bringing UK into alignment with Sp…

I too would also love maintaining servers where the time changes according to some convoluted approach that no one really understands.

Sec becomes really, really easy. No one can access it at all!

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

#177
post #14

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: switching to UTC+0:30 will put a large number of countries in a common time zone without them deviating from their solar time too much.

I'm good for a 30 minute shift either way if we can forever stop talking about this.

I really like the extra hour of sunshine in the Summer time, I would miss it.

And to think this proposal would even take away an extra hour on top of that... Yikes.

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

#178
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really care any longer having a pretty flexible schedule and no commute. But living in relatively northern New England, the timezone tweaks for summer and winter really were pretty welcome. I suspect that most of those ranting about timezone changes wouldn't actually want sunrise at 4am or sunset at 3pm.

I live in Upstate New York, and care much more about the frustration, added stress, and provable loss of life that results from the twice-yearly changing of the clocks than I do about what the clock says when the sun is setting. If I want more sunlight during the time I'm awake, I can get up earlier in the morning .

Not everyone controls their schedule.

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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post #168

All attempts to optimize society by changing time zones and adjusting for daylight savings time time should be abandoned. Let society set the schedule after a static time. With this I mean ordinary time zones and the same time throughout the year. Which approximately should correspond with the sun at its highest at noon. If someone prefers brighter mornings and darker afternoons, and someone else the opposite, the so…

> the solution is easy. Adapt your life to follow that Those pesky employers are such traditionalists, though.

My employer might be flexible, but I am sure my daughter's school wouldn't let me just pick when her bus picks her up and drops her off.

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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post #175
post #168

All attempts to optimize society by changing time zones and adjusting for daylight savings time time should be abandoned. Let society set the schedule after a static time. With this I mean ordinary time zones and the same time throughout the year. Which approximately should correspond with the sun at its highest at noon. If someone prefers brighter mornings and darker afternoons, and someone else the opposite, the so…

Honestly I would prefer to go even further - UTC for the entire planet, no offsets. Unfortunately I know most people won't go for that...

Why not go just one step further and adopt Swatch Internet Time? I mean if we’re just going to go the mass upheaval route, we might as well ride that train as far as it will go.
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